If Ron Ben Yishai is so smart and knows all these facts - why is he pushing for new peace initiatives- if it is futile. Or does Mr Nen Yishai has deluded himseld with Peres's delusions- of a NEW Middle East ? It seems that Mr Ben Yishai of Bibi living is delusion and seld deception - when it is Israel's left , Mr Peres and another idiots from yesteryear like Peace NOW are still pushing for peace. We have seen the "peace" in Egypt and this is only the start. It seems that only Liberman has any plausible logic - and Bibi has finally come to his senses after bowing 3 years to Obama and Hilary.

What is your hurry? Trying to give land away in a fire sale? Are you afraid that with the demographic growth of the Jewish population, you won't be able to give the land away anymore? Based on all logic, if we gave in on anything to the arabs, we, we would definately lose. Look at what happened with Sharon and Gaza. If you don't learn from history, you will learn through harsh reality. Take a deep breath and stop helping piecenow.

Intifadas are self destructive--these threats to launch another one are likedned to someone threatening to harm himself. If they want to further destroy their own economy and infrastructure, let them.

Rather than fear a new "Palestinian" intifatah, Israel should welcome it as a golden opportunity to drive our enemies from our land forever.

You are right Ben Yishai, Abbas is luring Netanyahu to a situation similar to South Africa, with the consequences that we know, The Palestinians are there, and there is no good solution, to solve this probleme without pain, if we don't make two liveble states, then it will be the end of Israel

Do yourself a favor. Abandon the messianic Leftism. Read Martin Sherman's rational analysis published over the last few weeks in a competing newspaper. Then come back.

#5 Itamar. Can you read a map? Anyone capable of reading a map knows that Israel could not survive a decade if we're lunatic enough to implement the monstrous Two State Final Solution. Israel's waist would be trimmed to a suicidal 9 miles; 15 minutes by tank! Pay "Palestinians" to leave. That is the real solution.

that the Israeli national mood and identity is not moving towards a more radical right wing solution. The more they accuse Israelis of behaving like apartheid loving nazis, the less they will worry about what people might think. They already think we are that bad? OK, round them up and re-settle them in the Sinai. The world already sees us a monsters so what the heck!

Israelis who came from Europe to live in our homes because Balfour from England told them so must know that most of Palestinians would support the two state solution (1967 borders and East Jerusalem is Palestine's Capital)and compromise for the peace. Any thing else Palestinians know that we can make the lives of the Israelis of Europe hell, inside Palestine and worldwide, and we will.

Ah, the old addage: everyone has their price. What would you be prepared to pay? I guess that it would be rather less than someone might want to pay you to leave Israel. But, I hear you say: why should I want to leave Israel, it's my home? Exactly. Why would anyone want to leave their home?

take as it is, we also will make your life inside Israel and worldwide as hell as possible...let's start the party, pali....

He was in the middle of the 1st Lebanon War battlefields and witnessed Sabra & Chatila while you fat & lazy americans were playing golf in Tampa.

democratic Al Queda and magic carpets. 1000 and 1 Nights of yellow press.

Since M. Abbas has taken power he has been reluctant to negotiate. his end game is a one state solution. His conditions are to buy time. His UN action is to push his power. Even Arafat was willing to negotiate without conditions. Abbas needs to go and someone who genuinely wants peace will come. At the end of the Day israel was created to be a Jewish state. So the pals can only get a state based on areas they live on and additional contiguous area for growth. In the end they will not destroy israel by demographics which seems to be Abbas's end game. He is no man of peace and has never been one.

#9. Palestine never existed and never will. It's a hard truth, but sooner or later, you'll have to swallow it. Your children will have to swallow it. We will soon have more than 1 million Jews in Judea and Samaria. More Jews than all of Israel had in 1948. Like it or not; fictional Palestine is done like dinner.

You, and your Invented People should go to hell. Jewish people will remain where they are, but people like you are asking for trouble. Do you think that Jewish People will give in to your stupid demands? You are so pathetic and very naive. You people want the whole Pie, and that is not possible. That will never happen as long as there is a strong Israel. Palestinias will have to give up more than what you want, or pretend you want, because otherwise, you will become part of the State of Israel or continue as it is today. You do not want Peace with Israel. You want to destroy them, but you know what? You will miserable fail, and your stupid intifadas will only make it easier for Israel to destroy the current leadership in the West Bank. Go ahead and try. You will become nothing in the end. Trying to destroy Israel would be the end of your pathetic political ambitions...

1. First of all, the majority of Israelis are Sephardic and Mizrahi -- you know, the ones who were forced from their homes in Arab and Moslem lands with little more than the clothes on their backs. That said, it does not matter how long we were in exile -- there are Jewish communities in Israel that have been there since long before the concept of "Arab" was even born -- and the archeological record and the historical record speaks powerfully to a continuous Jewish presence dating back to Biblical times. The ersatz "Palestinians" are newcomers. 2. In 2000, Arafat (may his name be cursed throughout eternity) walked away from an offer which would have given the ersatz "Palestinians" 95% of the West Bank and East Jerusalem as a capital. He chose to start the second intifada instead. That didn't go terribly well for you, but it was YOUR choice, and you need to take responsibility for the choices you make, no matter how foolish and self-destructive. 3. I wouldn't go around threatening to make the lives of Israeli hell. We can kick your asses out of our country any time we want. We're pretty sick and tired of you and your violence and your congenital stupidity. 4. The international community of nations will not come swooping to your aid. Frankly, despite the lip service paid in the media and in assorted public forae, the simple truth of the matter is that no one likes the ersatz "Palestinians," and no one gives a damn about you -- not even your fellow Arabs. You've overstayed your presence on the world stage. It's time for you to disappear back into the sands of the Hejaz in the Western Arabian desert from whence you came. Trust me -- two days in the international press, a United Nations meeting or two, and the world will move on to other things. Serious issues. You violent lot just aren't all that important.

However, your reasoning does not hold any water. Abbas the magnificent was not interested in negotiations with Israel for the last 24 months, Findingalways a pretext:-)i.e. no discussions without settlements. He does not impress me either with what he said in the UN last week. So, Ron, with all due respect, times are not favorable to your line of thought today.

Why is it I often get the impression Ynet News is owned by Arabs?

...literally! : - ))

you think you have problems now? wait till we push the REST of you across the River. AND cleanse Mount Moriah, to boot. The world already hates us - we might as well do it!!

Mr.Ron....we're OK! Textbook delusions in broad daylight.

pals have used murder of Jewish children and innocents to frighten Israelis. Instead the pals have caused Israeli disgust. The Arab Spring is in danger of becoming the Arab Fall. Instead, by misunderstanding the Israeli mind set, the pals threaten to use UNguided rockets to bombard Israel. All this to lose another round of fighting to the Israelis.. Israel is occupied with more important security problems than violent threats of pals. moshe

You are right, the rest of world hate you. Because you are thieves.

you don't know anything about policy and only believe the stupid channel called CNN.....don't say lies about arafat and remember if the offer was right he will accept it but the offer they gave him is totally different of which you said...

As long as Israel is hated by the likes of you, it's clear the country's on the right track.

Good to see you back on form, although the stupid final sentence of No.9 made it easy pickings for you. More important is the significance of your point 4. It is precisely because "no-one gives a damn about you [the Palestinians]" that they have nothing to lose in putting up violent resistance to what they experience as occupation. You can keep killing them and expelling them and - surprise, surprise - they will survive and keep coming back. You know why? Because, although it must pain you to think this and although you may think it historically unjustified, the Palestinian Arabs are not altogether different from Zionist Jews. No matter how much you continue to insist that the Palestinian Arabs are not who they think they are they will continue to have other ideas.