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Navy seizes Gaza-bound Finnish ship
Yoav Zitun
Published: 20.10.12, 22:06
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31. Let these morons pay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (10.20.12)
32. #2, Batman, we could be friends !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (10.20.12)
33. idf troopers
bill ,   canada   (10.20.12)
another round of medals for your idf; and some more laptops and cameras; you can max out all the credit cards too; sell the ship and keep the toys for under privilaged jewish kids
34. Mere two weeks ago Turkish navi
Miron ,   USA   (10.20.12)
"accidentally" lost at sea ship full of refugees off of Izmir. 58 people on board, 9 of them children lost lives. No Jewish guy to blame - nobody says as much as a peep.
35. well, at least the Israeli seals didn't have paintball guns
Ziggy ,   Safed   (10.20.12)
Barak didn't armed the SEALS with paintball guns, a good sign. But the flotilla clown circus goes on and on.None of these creeps goes to jail, the boat is given to them to set up the next event, and Gaza gets more crap from the ISM for free. Israel's leaders are idiots.
36. Act o fpiracy
Vivi Fiant ,   Ohio USA   (10.20.12)
As an American tax payer I wish our taxes were not diverted to a country committing piracy against another sovereign nation. I wish the UN would be strong enough to reign in state sponsored piracy. Vivifiant, Ohio
37. Estelle October 20, 2012
Kitty ,   Sweden   (10.20.12)
I was shocked when reading some of the earlier comments on the seizure of "Estelle." This is a humanitarian effort with a mission to provide much needed medical equipment and other basic necessities to people who are lacking essential material to adequately provide care for their sick and old. As far as I understand, these people need all support they can get.
38. Let them try 5 years in a dungeon in Gaza like Shalit did -
me ,   here   (10.20.12)
perhaps that would change their minds!
39. #36
Aron ,   Lancaster, PA   (10.20.12)
Pssst! Your ignorance is showing! But that's OK - I volunteer the taxes I pay for diversion. Let's keep your taxes and put them into an apparently much needed upgrade of the education system here.
40. A priest also sailig - must be an illiterate priest!
Jouko ,   Finland   (10.20.12)
It is a pity that some many people tell they are priests but the amazing thing is these 'so called priests' cannot even read the Bible! These modern liberal priests are the blind leading the blind! What a pity!
41. What a great idea! A free vacation to israel.
Essie HaKohane ,   Fl. USA.   (10.20.12)
I think I figured out how to beat the system and avoid the high airline rates to Israel. 1. Volunteer for one of these free junkets to gaza. 2. Have the Israeli navy seize your boat and take you to gaza. 3. Explain your true intentions to Israel security. 4. Enjoy being in Israel. It's 100x better than the cesspool that is called gaza.
42. There are methods of remotely disabling a ship
Tracy W   (10.20.12)
The Israeli government has learned NOTHING from the Marmara disaster. There was no violence this time but it may happen again in the future. Those people know the PR value of martyrdom. Their stated main goal is not to break the blockade but to generate MORE bad PR for Israel. And submitting peacefully does not bring huge headlines. ~~~~~~~~~ The remaining question is - will these people be penalized for breaking the law? Or will they be let go so that they can try again?
43. #13 Mladen Andrijasevic - EXCELLENT POST!
Tracy W   (10.20.12)
Absolutely brilliant! Thank you.
44. #37
Aron ,   Lancaster, PA   (10.20.12)
Estelle, with all do respect, you are misinformed and do not understand correctly. Your efforts would better serve the people of certain countries in Africa (where Israelis are constantly present teaching advanced agricultural methods and providing the needed supplies), in Syria where the government is exterminating the civilian population, in Haiti that, though the Israeli hospital stayed long after most others left, still needs a lot of help... Find a cause that is real, not just against Israel. There is a difference.
45. #37 Kitty
Tomer ,   Hod Hasharon, Israel   (10.20.12)
Kitty, I'll assume your comment is genuine and give you an equally honest response. Life in Gaza is not a bowl of cherries, but they don't lack for very much. The Rafah crossing to Egypt has been open for a few years, even during the later years of the Mubarak regime - most goods can be transferred there. Israel also transfers many tons of goods there every day, and there is now only a very short list of banned items, mostly those connected to armaments. The Hamas government is extremely good at PR and making themselves look downtrodden to the outside world. Meanwhile they (or their proxies) continue to lob rockets across into Israeli territory. Perhaps they'd have more money for their needs if they didn't spend it on weaponry? Meanwhile, a few hundred kilometres to the north of here, a real civil war is going on in Syria - with tens of thousands dead. As a long-term Israeli leftie, even I'm puzzled (like most of the population here) why well-meaning compassionate people from Scandinavia invest so much in bringing "much needed medical equipment and other basic necessities" to Gaza which already has these things, while ignoring the suffering and needs of the Syrian people which I can assure you are infinitely greater. Do some research (outside the usual pro-Palestinian websites), and you'll discover that the reality is quite different to what you've been told. And I'm afraid that yes, you will find some of the talkbacks on here quite shocking. But that's rightwingers (especially American ones) for you :)
46. To: No. 37
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.20.12)
Would you mind telling me how cement -- by far and away the largest portion of the cargo aboard the ESTELLE -- provides care for the sick and old? It doesn't. It does, however, help shore up illegal smuggling tunnels, used to bring weapons into Gaza which are then promptly used against Israeli civilians. Moreover, has it occurred to you that Hamas and the rest of the terrorist rabble in Gaza could provide more than adequate care for the sick and elderly if they were to use their money for that instead of purchasing weapons to use against innocent Israeli civilians? That way, those sick and elderly wouldn't constantly have to come to Israel for medical care. And Israel could stop providing them with FREE electricity and FREE fresh water and FREE thousands of metric tons of humanitarian aid trucked in from Israel on a weekly basis. You understand nothing. Get an education. Until then, kindly shut up. You are a consummate fool.
47. To: No. 36
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (10.20.12)
Well, in that case, perhaps you should urge your congressman not to vote for U.S. foreign aid to: - Indonesia (more pirates there than in Somalia) - Somalia - Pakistan (hey -- didn't the Pakistani government provide a safe haven for Osama bin Laden for ten years?) Do you really wish for me to continue? I can, you know. The list is endless. For now -- why don't you just don your dunce cap and stand in the corner for ten years? You're a complete idiot. Just shut up until you acquire an education (good luck with that, by the way ....)
48. # 15 Eveliina, Finland
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
Thanks and so are we. Too bad they can't help the real victims, the Syrians, Lebanese, Libya, Iranians, Arabia, etc. et al who are 'occupied' by religious thugs and so called kings.
49. # 22 I'm with you kid.
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
Or, they could sink the damned thing with all the dummies onboard.
50. # 38 me here ( really ) OOOH I LIKE THAT!
big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
and bacon for breakfast so they don't miss the pig.
51. LOL funny Kitty
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
the rotund and overweight pals are so fat they waddle. Poor things my ass, how many rockets have the animals fired into Israel? Their damned lucky to be alive, for now. ( maybe not in the future if there is no Gaza and no pals occupying an inch of Israel.) Are you 'educated' in a madras, looney?
52. # 35 Your right!
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
Until Israel plays for keeps, these jerks will use their welfare money and other free welfare donations to vacation trying to break a legal naval blockade into israel. Nothing but a bunch of anti semitic cowards being paid to look like fools. ( hope they didn't pay them too much, they weren't worth the powder to blow them to hell, hmm, now that's a good idea.) Seize the ship jail and fine them and viola, no more jerks at sea.
53. # 33 Bill Another great idea! Charity real charity from
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
Finnish flops ( I'm sure they are a small minority, most Finns like to drink too much to join these losers and bums.)
54. # 34 Miron Careless Turks
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
some 'accident' but then, the Turks have to help their Syrian brothers running for their lives into Turkey. ( where the Syrian Army then tries again to murders them ) Not a nice neighborhood. A real wonder to see the muslims making war on other muslims.. And, your right, not one Jew or Christian involved. And, not one peep.
55. # 2 You get an A
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
best idea yet. Like the russians did with the Somali pirates. Drifting and then, BOOM! One big shot that ended a boatful of pirates with one blast. Efficient, economical and fatal. ( I wonder no virgins for the pirates ?)
56. # 7 the whole thing was brainless
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
and, most probably a paid adventure with these human lice accepting blood money instead working a real job.
57. #9 Zeboos Israel
Big bad Jew ,   United States   (10.20.12)
"Pacifists' is a name they picked up from an 'invented by arafat people' arafat was a gay Egyptian who they idolize.
58. Estelle
DARK STAR ,   BUZZARDS GLORY PA.   (10.20.12)
The Estelle would make a great cruise ship out of Ashdod and a business opportunity.
59. To #37
Alfred ,   Iarael   (10.20.12)
You don't know what you say, come to Israel and see how Israeli deal with the people of gaza they have all what they need thousand of truckload of goods delivered every but what they responded.... Rockets and terror to Israel.. This people are certified idiots and traitor
60. What to do with the passengers
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.20.12)
Show them the damages caused by their "friends" in gaza . Show them how Israeli arabs live in Israel , let them see what we made of the Neguev , In short , let them see the other side of the coin .
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