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We're losing America's Jews
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 12.12.12, 00:25
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61. America's jews
Frozen ,   Toronto, Canada   (12.12.12)
This is just the type of article I would expect to find in this paper, such nonsense. I think American Jews are American first. Regretful but that's the way it is. I don't often know what Friedman's intentions and motives are, good or bad, but he often sees things in a skewed way, a leftist way I suppose. Suggesting that he shows Israelis what they are like is laughable. Israel needs to do what is best for her long term protection, and if Americans can't see right from wrong then so be it.
62. Losing American Jews
Cynthia ,   Austin   (12.12.12)
I find this article interesting because the observation seems to be media based. I am a non Jew and have lived in Israel and visted on 3 different occassions as recently as last month. I volunteer here with the Jewish community as well as abroad. I ound the The Jewish people here of ALL ages not only DO NOT identify with ISREAL (the people or the land) but see themselves ONLY as Americans. The sad thing is that this is just the same state of affair they were in when they were blind-sided by Hitler!! I think they better wake up and smell the coffee!!
63. Jews descendants are not always jewish....
trump   (12.12.12)
64. America's Jews
Clearsighted   (12.12.12)
Israel isn't losing American Jews because of anything Israel does or anything Lieberman says. Israel is losing America's Jews because America's Jews are assimilating and intermarrying into non-existence at an ever-increasing rate. Right now, almost 60% of American Jews marry outside the faith. 95% of American Jews have NEVER visited Israel. Israel is no longer relevant to them because Judaism is increasingly irrelevant to them and Zionism even more so. They are more interested in fashionable leftist causes than in the survival of the Jewish people or Israel. They don't want to appear too parochial about Jewish causes because it would make them look bad in front of their leftist gentile friends and colleagues. They are no different than the Jews of Germany in the 1920s and 1930s who proudly declared that they were German first and Jewish second and told their neighbors that it was those Polish Jews with their outlandish clothing and customs that were the real problem. Sadly, this is a demographic change that I believe Israel can do little to change.
65. American Jews support Israel
Lani54 ,   Kauai, USA   (12.12.12)
Most Americans outside of NYC have not been exposed to war on their home turf, and as such, often have no idea what Israelis have to go through , and have gone through , on a daily basis.It is like an action movie that you can turn off when you leave the theatre.I think this has more to do with the distance and lack of understanding than assimilation. I grew up in Brooklyn, on the Hebrew Rez and have lived most of my adult life in places where there are few Jews ,and places where they don't even know what a Jew is. I do see a lot of Jews who benefit from the fact that Israel is our power base , and truly believe that American Jews enjoy the liberties they do today because Israel has existed since 1948, and still exists as a Jewish state in our original homeland . But American Jews love their country, and worry about the future of the US, as much as Israel. I think many Jews joined in and felt a part of Pillar of Defense , and I think when they get their own lives settled, they will reach out again to I srael as they have in the past.
66. #1 Vlad - Irrelevance
Michael ,   Haifa   (12.12.12)
One fringe benefit of your assumption is that the racist lobby, AIPAC, will also disappear.
67. Our sisters and brothers in the US should know the following
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (12.12.12)
It is of some interest and very enlightening: It has been Israel that has fulfilled all the requirements of the 1995 Interim Agreement with the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) while its civilian population, for the entire period, has been the target of the war-of-attrition-through-terror perpetrated by the Muslim-Arabs of the disputed territories, contrary to the very ideas on which the Interim Agreement was reached, yet, the world's response has been an on-going thunder of silence. And, now that the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), for the second time, breaks away from peace negotiations and attempts to "resolve" the conflict through a third party, the UN in this case, again, contrary to the 1995 Interim Agreement between the parties, the blame is placed on the Jews. And, during this whole period of nearly 20 years only the Jews who have advanced peace offers, opportunities and gestures. But, some, primarily the present White House and the EU leadership, demands of Israel to just sit on its hands when the Muslim-Arabs continuously break their commitment to peace. Is it possible that Israel is simply perceived by such forces as the Jew of yesteryear's Christian society who can be spit at each time he walks by on the main street...??
68. the author is shackled to galut
leah g ,   itamar   (12.12.12)
you can stay in America in its black and white movie or come and live in color in a real live story of redemption. This doesn't mean we dont have to reach out to our brothers there are teach them about the vitality of the land.This author is holding hard to the horns of the altar of galut mentality- he fits right in with what he is writing about. It's sad. Comes a time that a new king takes over Mitzrayim that does NOT know Yosef. Including all the slaves that lived there and later perished there. Sad..
69. A good take on it, #56
Cameron ,   USA   (12.12.12)
70. Propaganda
rhen ,   belgium   (12.12.12)
i stopped reading this "lieticle " when i reached " a country in which half of the people under its rule do not have the right to vote", which is a blunt lie, shame on you Ynet for publishing lies on your country, and after you ask yourself why non Israeli say this kind of lies, if you want to publish those lies go right on Pali media, you plouc.
71. #66 "Racist"?
Menachem ,   Israel   (12.12.12)
What makes the pro-Israel lobby "racist"? You sound more like a brainwashed person in Europe or the Arab world then one claiming to reside in Haifa.
72. To get American Jews back, Israel needs to make peace.
Michael ,   California, USA   (12.12.12)
Ahead of everything else is the fatigue with Israel at war for a very, very, very long time. Most American Jews I know prefer not to think about Israel in its permanent state of war, but would not want Israel to disappear either. Prevalent is the state of ambivalence toward Israel among Jews, but not among the Evangelists.
73. Leftist
Greg ,   USA   (12.12.12)
This is not a leftist view but a world view. Do you really think your allies think highly of you and help you becuase you are right then you are ignorant. It is amazing how you cant see what you doing.
74. American Jews love Israel
Chaim Ben Kahan ,   Efrat, Israel   (12.12.12)
Just keep sending these kids on birthright and you will have loyal supporters to Israel forever. The first Antisemitic incident that these kids experience will cause them run right into the arms of Zionism. Now they are naive, but when they learn the truth about the enemies of Israel and the Jewish people, they will wake up.
75. how comfortable is that?
tiki ,   belgium   (12.12.12)
Critsizing Israel, what it should or shouldn't do, on a talkshow in a far away US studio. Does Israel make mistakes? Of course, but who doesn't. Those critisizers in the studio don't have to live with the consequences, they only need to analyse it and give some more valuable advise.
76. Holding another mirror
Hunt S Cross ,   England   (12.12.12)
Tom Friedman, who loves Israel and is merely trying to put a mirror in front of us so we will stop and examine the situation, says the article. Who holds that mirror up to Israel's enemies? What a hypocritical article.
77. I'm pleased to see how many Americans think this is BS.
Jrebecca ,   modiin   (12.12.12)
Ackerman , "Don’t be bullied by the self-righteous and the narrow-minded" yet he is being just those things.
78. When push comes to shove and the American Jew is questioned
Al   (12.12.12)
about his loyalty he will abandon Israel with nay a peep. They did it to their own families in WWII they will do it again to the Jews of Israel. Have no illusions about them. They are usless to the core and I include the entire friggin lot of them. They like the feeling of being Jewish so long as it doesnt burn their ass. They will never stand with Israel when their own loyalty will come into question. Never ever trust them for anything. The problem with Israel is that you are schnorrers and you pine to these American shnooks only to be able to schnorrer from them.
79. Excellent article! כל הכבוד
Avi ,   USA   (12.12.12)
80. American Jews Obama
Joe Stein ,   USA   (12.12.12)
The only reason most American Jews voted for Obama was because the republicans wanted to cut Social Security Medicare Health , Insurance and Medicaid not other social issues. Most older American Jews are not rich and are dependent on these services for themselves and for thier parents. It was either Obama or starvation.
81. American Jews are the one who are...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.12.12)
losing.
82. 1 - It is Israel who is becoming irrelevant.
David   (12.12.12)
You see, western Jews tend to be educated and well to do. We grow up on principles of true democracy, equal right to all, live and let live. Those principles trump any religion affiliation. Israel, considers itself part of the free and western world but at same time is clashing with its basic core principles. /it is a matter of either Israel start to internalize and understand it or yes, lose the sympathy and support of western jews which by extension leads to western governments.
83. Your loosing some not all AmericanJews
Tova ,   Canada   (12.12.12)
American, Canadian or Europena Jews - not all are lost. Some Jews just don't care about Israel - they are too comfortable in west. Then you have active Jews who always support Israel. - the have been to Israel, they have Israeli friends. they know the history. Not all Jews will care about Israel - In the end it only matters for those who care for Israel.
84.  1. America's Jews are becoming irrelevant
split ,   split   (12.12.12)
They provide you handouts that keep you afloat ,...
85. This is NOT true.
Reuven   (12.12.12)
86. Jews will flee America as they are fleeing France.
Chaim ,   Israel   (12.12.12)
Twenty years ago, establishement French Jews would tell you France is a great place to live and Jews will stay there to the end of time. How things have changed! The same trends are also at work in America. Increasing numbers of hostile Moslems, increasing subservience to Islam etc. Jews will soon flee America as they are fleeing France today.
87. #82 - David - your loosing
Tova ,   Canada   (12.12.12)
American Jews are not more educated. it only seems that way as there are more Jews in States than Israel. Remember David it is Israel that protects you. Israel is a sovereign country. Without Israel, the Amerians would have you in chains. Education doesn't make a person - Alot of intellectual people can be very stupid as well as dangerous. Israel intelligence is realistic, Remember David, you are free in Amerian because of Israel.
88. Facts on the ground
Joseph ,   London UK   (12.12.12)
Israel is not great at pr or diplomacy, but then no one is suggesting New York be cut in two with Iranian puppets governing half of NYC. Israel is probably about the size of Delaware, lost among Islamic states about one hudred times the size of Israel. What American Jewish college students think reflects little understanding of Israel's daily realities. We must continue the Birthright trips to connect them to the 'facts on the ground'.
89. Losing America's Jews
Syd Chaden ,   Palermo Calif USA   (12.12.12)
Israel is, indeed, losing America's Jews. Not all of the American Jews, just the 70% of American Jews that are liberals.. America's liberal Jews desperately want a One World, in which they think that they will be accepted, not as Jews, but as citizens of the One World. They ignore the fact that the One World that they seek does not like Jews, and will insist on regarding them as Jews. They ignore the fact that a major segment of that One World is Muslim, which will not accept them and which calls for their death. Israel makes liberal American Jews uncomfortable, because American Jews want to blend into a One World society, and Israel is outright Jewishness and highlights to the world that Jews still exist. Regardless of what liberal American Jews think, Israel needs to concern itself with its survival in an anti-Semitic world. American liberal Jews, who are discomfited by that, should consider conversion to Islam. As Muslims, they will be free from world criticism. As Muslims, they can join in the celebrations of suicide bombers, and attacks on civilians, and happily shout "Allah Akbar". And, no one will attack them, unless they are Shiite Muslims and the Sunni Muslims attack them, or they are Sunni Muslims, and the Shiite Muslims attack them.
90. American Jews are undergoing a demographic implosion
The Analyst ,   Israel   (12.12.12)
With 55% outmarriage & 20% No marriage, US Jewry is rapidly shrinking. As numbers fall, it becomes even harder to find a Jewish partner, so the process accelerates. US Jewry will effectively vanish within 30 years, leaving behind only a core of haredim who will become tourist sights (like Amish)
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