I know, but I got stuff mixed up when I posted that with some other stuff.

give anything for nothing. They get in return, the only land that will accept them, in case of antisemitism.

make peace with people who do not want to make peace?

Your post is garbage; all of it. Jews petitioned the White House, including to bomb Auschwitz railroad tracks. They did not "do" anything to their own families. They supported, and still support Israel. When Golda made her amazing appeal in the US for funds for a desperate Israel, where did the money come from? Iran? Your problem is your prejudice blinds you from facts.

Jews succeeded and did quite well for themselves well before 1948. On the other hand ever since 1967 Israel is client state of the US. Continuously receiving financial, military and political aid. Moreover Israeli officials coming to our temple every rosh hashana begging for schnor. No, We are not more secure and safe here in the US because of Israel the other way is true. As matter of fact, Israeli policies in the last 15 years or so are raising levels of anti Semitism world wide thus definitely not making us more secure. Stop with the coolaid and wake up to reality.

Maybe the head line should be changed fram "We (Israel) are loosing Americas`s Jes" to "Americas`s Jews are loosing themselves"?

They are not all against Israel, they are not all against peace. There are Arabs who will work for a reasonable peace agreement with Israel. Country after country, peace agreements can be forged. Open your eyes and see around the world who is considered the party that doesn't want peace. Stay by the mirror and looking at yourself try with an honest face to answer this question: do I want peace or something else? And I am speaking about peace with solid security guarantees, workable resolution of the conflict.

The issue is not American Jews vis a vis Israel. It is American Jews vis a vis America. With the umbrella of fraudulent statistical reporting by the ADL, FBI, and other groups purposely understating the extent of hate crimes in the US, the Jews of the States have been lulled into a state of complacency unseen since the Jews of 1930s Germany. President Obama has shown unbridled, albeit well masked hatred for Jews. With a complaint media and propaganda machine equal to the best by the Nazis, USSR, and other Anti-Jews of history, he has been able to shield himself. The truth is coming out and MOST Jews will react. Sadly, some Jews will relive history and through their ignorance volunteer for the ovens. The rest will continue to arm ourselves and be prepared to defend ourselves. It is not if..it is when

#97 Michael. History proves that the only security guarantee Jews have is strength. Not worthless words signed by a terrorist. Your idea of giving away our sacred ancestral heartland for "security guarantees" is a sick joke.

American Jews need Israel. Talk you want about what America is doing for Israel. Israel has given American back 10 fold. Go to Israel, Live in Israel, do the army. The reality is. Should Israel ever loose the war - Jews all over the world will be in chains. When you go to Israel you will realize it yourself. It's easy to judge from the comfort of your home. America needs Israel more. Without Israel American would have no allies in the middle east. The arab nations would quickly attack the United States. Remeber 9/11 - it was beginning of what is to come. And yes American Jews are not more educated, they just have is easier - they don't need to go to the army. Israelis spend 2-3 years in the military - resume their education and still are ahead. More importantly Jews are educated in whatever land they live - it's not a result of living in the US.

48 Partition? 67? 73? Camp David 78? 82? Oslo 93? 06? Many Israelis are tired of the false promises that you attempt to speak of...

reason why i should not want peace?

You are losing our unconditional support. We want peace more than anything, and we are tired of the delays. We no longer are willing to give Israel a free pass on things like pillar of defense, even if we understand why it happened. Better solutions are necessary, but we are NOT abandoning our love of Israel, we are just changing the way we show it. Jstreet not Aipac.

Will four items prove it? I could go on and on. 1. You think that for keeping the territories young Israelis can serve in the armed forces and be willing to die. 2. You think it is "kiddush hashem" when secular dies protecting settlers in occupied territories. 3. You think Torah is a word for which you would die and others should be like you everywhere. 4. You think that when a rabbi or religeous leader promotes that someone disagreeing with "them" should die, it is OK to shoot him in the back after he sang a peace song.

If you don't understand Pillar of Defense, that says it all; did you understand Cast Lead? Or the Six-Day War? You are free to have your own opinions, except that they pose a danger to the Israel that you 'love'.

Wake up out of your nightmares !

american jews arent abandoning israel for political reasons.they are abandoning israel simply because of bad treatment to olim chadshim from america.

The olim hadashim are much better of then the first pioneers in Israel,who despite the terrible conditions didn t quit.