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Report: Dutch anti-Semitism widespread
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Published: 21.03.13, 13:21
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1. Here we go
Tim ,   Brighton   (03.21.13)
As I perceive that Norway Media and Political Elite the erstwhile champion of Anti Jewish and Anti Israel attacks trying to adopt a more even handed approach to Israel and Palestine So an element of the Dutch (or is it Ditch) Media and Political Elite is picking up the Baton with relish So so so so out of character... Please lets see the Historical Dutch Sense of Fair Play..prevail
2. Holland suffered during WW2.
Beni B ,   Baltimore   (03.21.13)
They suffered in WW2 and later became Nazis themselves. Truly Amazing.
3. Arabs
Ariel ,   São Paulo - Brasil   (03.21.13)
What is the % of muslims in dutch population?????? This is the answer to this research
4. The best stopover on the way to Israel is in Amsterdam.
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.21.13)
I will not change my route. The Dutch people are wonderful: pleasant, clean, quiet, polite. Their airline, KLM, is fabulous. Besides, the Dutch rescued us on the way out of Girush Sfarad. They gave shelter to the greatest Jew who ever lived: Baruch Espinosa. Whatever this Gerstenfeld says, he didn't do his homework because he didn't meet the wonderful Dutch people I have been meeting.
5. Europe suffers from Muslim,still...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (03.21.13)
they claim Jews are the bad ones. Who can explain this ?
6. Michael #4 This is not based on what Gerstenfeld says
Jake   (03.21.13)
This is based on findings made by a German university study and Dutch TV interviews. You are merely shooting the messenger.
7. 5- Europe suffers from Muslim?
k ,   US   (03.21.13)
No Europe suffers from Europe Everything the Muslims know they learned from the Europeans Stop making this a "Muslim" Issue Europeans are always the #1 most anti-semetic people in the world They don't need any Muslims to influence them
8. Now the Duch are bad ;) ,...
split ,   US   (03.21.13)
It looks like this hate is universal and since the beginning of time ,... Mr. Gerstenfeld did it ever cross your mind to take a look in a mirror and ask yourself why instead keep pointing your finger ? ,...
9. Michael #4 Sadly it is true.
A Jerusalemite ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (03.21.13)
Historically the Netherlands and the Dutch people were good friends to the Jewish people. Sadly today it is different. I have visited Holland, I have traveled in other countries and met Dutch people there also traveling. To my regret as an Israeli I have been verbally attacked and not permitted to answer the attacks by Dutch people many times. It even happened on a 4-day gulet [boat] trip in Turkey when a Dutch doctor wouldn't listen to a word I said in reply to his many inaccurate accusations.
10. not really with so much arab money invested
Martin ,   uk   (03.21.13)
nazi collaboraters and sympathisers are/were in all countries. after the war, i visited the three remaining survivirs of my family in the Netherlands, all three had been sterilised. what does that tell you?
11. Not a correct title.
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (03.21.13)
Not hollanders are antisemites, but the occupying arabs, hindus, pakis, turks and other ethnic minorities living in the Netherland. I am also not correct, as in Amsterdam and Rotterdam they are already majority.
12. #8, Correct, I have also found Jews everywhere hate deeply.
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.21.13)
13. #4 Michael
Vlad   (03.21.13)
Did he say ALL Dutch people? Or just 39%? Re-read the article again you left-wing troll.
14. #9 - and not permitted to answer the attacks ,...
split ,   US   (03.21.13)
You're forgetting a fact that we have internet, smart phones, cameras satellite communication system, that we can watch your goons in real time and almost smell the blood you spew - We don't have to listen or rely on your hasbara crap anymore so save your breath ,...
15. let me guess
yawn   (03.21.13)
israel is a victim again? tell me something i didn't hear already
16. To nr 8 and 14 You're forgetting a fact that we have...
Alexander ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (03.22.13)
... internet, smart phones, cameras satellite communication system, with which we can use to prove you wrong split,... If you anti-Semites don't want Jews to answer back, I suggest you don't debate us to begin with,... Simple logic,... But if anti-Semites keep spewing their lies and hatred then they will sooner or later be beaten up really bad by Jews,... If you don't want to listen to Jews, why are you here? This is an ISRAELI newspaper,... You have accusations against Israel. Fine I'd love to hear them. I just wonder for how much longer you will go on lying,... "It looks like this hate is universal and since the beginning of time ,..." Since the beginning of time? Really? How far back in time are you going? Universal? Most people on this planet are no anti-Semites. That's a simple fact. Question for you split: can you spread brotherly love for the human race and inspire good in people by defending hatred and racism like you do? Answer one simple question: what do you personally get out of hating Jews? I just want to know,... "Mr. Gerstenfeld did it ever cross your mind to take a look in a mirror and ask yourself why instead keep pointing your finger ? ,... " And what is in the mirror? Why not pointing fingers since you anti-Semites are doing the hating? I mean we are not hating ourselves so it can't be our fault - it has to be your fault since you are doing the hating, thus explaining why we are pointing fingers. And why are you pointing fingers to us? What is the accusation?
17. precision
European Jew   (03.22.13)
What the author of the article fails to mention is that that surge in antisemitism appears mainly among the growing muslim population in Netherlands (mainly morrocans or turks) The same appears in Belgium, where according to a recent poll 50% of muslims youth declare themselves as antisemite.
18. #13, I don't admire all the Dutch,just the majority of them.
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.22.13)
Vlad, too bad, you are the minority left behind by decent people, even by the right wing oddballs.
19. Israel is in love with...hate.
Avi ,   NYC, US   (03.22.13)
It makes us SOOOO unique to know that everyone hates us. Must be because we are so successful, honest, clean and even smell great. So now it is the turn of the Dutch to sit in the corner... As a kid, I once asked a relative of mine whether all gentiles hate us. "No", he replied, "Only those gentiles who got to know us."
20. Counterproductive use of study
Beauchard   (03.22.13)
Gerstenfeld is referring to a study of 8 European countries published in 2011 and based on telephone interviews from 2008. He does not mention that the study concluded that the Netherlands and Great Britain were the least antisemitic of the 8 countries. Of course there is a lot of antisemitism now in Holland. The situation has become worse since 2008. However singling out the Netherlands on the basis of this study is counterproductive,
21. not true
female ,   TA/A'dam   (03.22.13)
Its the Muslim population in the Netherlands that hate Israel....they are low educated, most of them don't finish school and end up in the criminal circuit....their mothers spoil their boys...but the Netherlands can only blame themselves, they brought the marocans & Turkish to Holland in the 70's to do the dirty work that the Dutch didn't want to do, but they made a big mistake, they gave them the Dutch Nationality....but again what you cook, you eat...
22. To Beni #2
Yossi ,   Israel   (03.22.13)
Holland before WW2 had a National Socialist party. It was very active on behalf of the Nazi occupation in dealing with the Final Solution.
23. Fantasy and Reality
Joe ,   Israel   (03.22.13)
In WW2 in Belgium 40-50% of jews survived in the Netherlands 10% of Jews survived. The disparity in the rate of survival of Jews during WW2 was due to the cooperation of the Dutch officialdom and civilian population and not in the lack of efficiency of the Nazis. The image of Holland as a land of dikes, windmills and wooden shoes is a fantasy.
24. #14 split - your usual garbage post,
solomon ,   bklyn   (03.22.13)
full of crap
25. House of Armguard will.....
Bluegrass Picker ,   Afula   (03.22.13)
....disappear when we liberate Dutch-occupied Netherlands, and return it to its Spanish owners. House of Armgard is illegitimate.
26. "The Least Antisemitic?"
CuriousDavee ,   L.A., USA   (03.22.13)
Sure, why apply a higher moral standard to a specific country on its level of antisemitism when "everyone does it?"
27. A lot of Crap
Han ,   Den Helder Holland   (03.22.13)
Holland is more anti-muslim than anti-Semitist. As number 3 already had said, more muslims has entered the Netherlands the last 20-30 years, and this is the main cause for having a rise in percentages. But if you only look at the native people alone that percentage will drop down drastically. If an Israeli tourist is verbally attacked it has nothing to dowith being Jewish, most of the dutch population are tired of all aggressive acts of youthfull muslims. Maybe short sighted but they will react to anyone who are not Dutch, so wether Israeli, Polish, Brasilian it doesn't matter.. Don't get me wrong, but I'm Jewish, Dutch and simply disagree with the article of anti-semetism widespread. I also have to agree with the widespread lies the media confronts us daily, without telling the truth, only to get the profits a "news-story" gets. Mazzeltov
28. #8--To the yugoslob from Split !!!
Don Rosenberg ,   Palatine USA   (03.22.13)
Hate, racism and jealousy are in the DNA of you moronic gentiles. So get educuted moron. You are jealous of us Jews because we are successful and smarter then you braindead christian/mooselim zoobies. So kiss my a................!!!!!!!
29. "The Least Antisemitic?"
CuriousDavee ,   L.A., USA   (03.22.13)
Sure, why apply a higher moral standard to a specific country on its level of antisemitism when "everyone does it?"
30. Let's not Oversimplify
CuriousDave ,   L.A., USA   (03.22.13)
Actually, the percentage of survivors in the Netherlands was closer to 33%, still terrible, but not 10% (check out web sites like Wikipedia and Jewish Virtuak Library). Also, there were many reasons for the disparity in surival rates from country to country. In Holland, Dutch collaboration certainly played a majo role, but, unfortunately, so did the naivete of many Dutch Jews, most of whom had become integrated into the general population and were ignorant of, or indifferent to the long history of persecutions of their ancestors. Too many of them considered Hitler a joke, and too many of them felt that the stories being spread about what the Nazis were doing in eastern Europe was so much hysteria and that people spreading those stories were being paranoid. We also need to factor in the many controversial decisions and actions taken by Ascher and Cohen, who allowed themselves to be used as tools of the Nazis when they were appointed heads of the Joosche Raad (Jewish Council) in Amsterdam.
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