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Obama still can't be trusted
Shoula Romano Horing
Published: 30.03.13, 15:13
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31. An excellent op-ed
Wise Saba ,   Western Negev   (03.30.13)
A must read for every one who still thinks Obummer is our friend, I consider him our enemy.
32. Shoula Romano Horing - 12 points!
tiki ,   belgium   (03.30.13)
For the love & acceptance of the Jew hating West, Israel is willing to become a Chamberlain
33. We worldwide work for peace
Zechariah   (03.30.13)
The need for peace is essential.With Hashems Will the USA is strong militarily as is Israel so the realities and Dreams have the Capacity.
34. # 6
Hertzel ,   Tveria   (03.30.13)
Thank you !!! Exactly my thoughts , by talking to Israel it shows who he thinks is at fault, when it is the pals that are being taught to hate and kill jews in their schools and mosques. This point is SO SO VERY IMPORTANT, I wish someone could clarify it with Obama.
35. Kidding, right?
Ariel ,   Argentina   (03.30.13)
You're kidding, right? You don't trust someone for what he speaks, you trust him for his deeds. what has obama done for israel in the last 4 years? he just pushed Israel against the wall. if you are going to trust Obama, you are simply a fool and will cost you big time.
36. #6 You hit the nail on its head. Thanks.
Gad Schalit   (03.30.13)
37. Thrusting Obama?? Hidden agenda..
Beary White ,   Norway   (03.30.13)
Just have a look at his ring which he is always using, similar to which abu mazen randomly use ; “There is no God but Allah ..." Now, listen to his speech in Cairo where he fiercly defended islam after removing the america-flag-pin from his dress. Israel, thrust yourself. We should obvious know he also laid pressure on bibi regarding Iran and Turkey. Additionally, the -67 armistic lines and dividing Jerusalem has become Obamas goal on behalf of the islamists in the area.
38. "I'm melting! Melting! Oh, what a world, what a world!"
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.30.13)
39. #7 - Gaza: Israel gives land and gets war
L. Rose ,   Canada   (03.30.13)
What's really ridiculous is completely ignoring what has actually occurred when Israel followed advice such as yours. Israel only got an escalation of violent aggression from Palestinians when it handed over Gaza free and clear. Has the world stepped up to support the ending of rocket attacks? Hardly. Hamas occupies Gaza yet, in typical hypocrite fashion, sees ALL of Israel as an 'occupation' (or do you know nothing of its doctrine)? It always amazes me how people who post such bizarre claims think Israeli's don't notice the rocket attacks and far worse situation in the south they find themselves in for giving up 'land for peace'. Please stop preaching fairy tales to people whose lives are at stake.
40. Trust Obama?
DEB ,   Wash DC   (03.30.13)
Alex at #7 is full of it. Can Israel trust Obama? Does a chicken have lips? It blows the mind of the average, normal person in the US (this by definition) excludes democrat/liberals) that so many US Jews supported him and voted for him for president. Israel will have to look out for itself, and do so soon.
41. Israeli trust in Obama
Syd Chaden ,   Palermo Calif USA   (03.30.13)
Et tu, Barack?
42. #16 - please get facts before posting
Michael Redbourn ,   Arad Israel   (03.30.13)
I am going to keep this brief because the details are all over the web. Israel has to spend 80% of the aid that it gets from the States, in the US and it provides lots and lots of jobs there. The aid represents less than 2% of Israel's GDP and Israel is very close to refusing it because of the strings attached to it. Strings such as preventing Israel from bidding against the US on arms deals. You get the gist now, and if you want to know more then surf a little.
43. Israel - Don't trust Obama
Ezer   (03.30.13)
We are not naive into believing Obama's words. We just need to see his actions, which have been less than kind to Israel. He has surrounded himself advisers like Kerry, Hagel who are obviously not our friends. He has disrespected our Prime Minister Natanyahoo and has forced him to declare a settlement freeze, release funds to Palestinians and make many concessions without reciprocity.He has obviously forced an apology to Turkey which is the same as asking the victim to apologize to the Marmara Hamas aggressors. He refuses to take action against Iran going Nuclear. So Please don't tell us to trust Obama. We have already suffered one Holocaust and are not prepared to risk another.
44. What would Obama say if Israel was a state of the U.S.
Zev ,   Israel   (03.30.13)
45. #16; Israel gives more to US than takes
Ari ,   New Orleans, US   (03.30.13)
Who was the creator of the Drone; an israeli from Tecnion in Haifa. For the three bilion dollars a year Israel has to buy only American products and Israel invents military weapons the Americans then use in turn; US give the Arab world more than 3 billion dollars a year including to the PA, , Egypt , Jordan, Yemen, Iraq, and Afganistan they got in return suicide bombers; Moslem Brotherhood, Shiites, genocides, totalitarian regimes and slaughter of innocent people; What the US can do with that? In addition US soldeirs die for them but not for Israel.
46. To no.7
Rich ,   Joplin, Mo. USA   (03.30.13)
Your ridiculous comment only proves the authors point and if anyone is delusional it is you. If history has taught us anything about the Arab-Israeli conflict it is that Israeli will always be condemned by the world for responding to Arab aggression. Just look at the worldwide response to Israeli actions to prevent thousands of missiles being fired from Gaza at Israeli population which has been far from supportive and includes the libelous Goldstone Report. Brilliant idea no. 7, have Israel shrink to the 67 borders, be nine miles across, have Hamas take over the West Bank in a matter of days, and wait for the missiles to fly into Israel's heartland in order to show that it is interested in peace. Then rely on the world's help to ensure the country' security The Israeli response will once again be condemned by the world as a violation of human rights. and the lives of Israelis will be irrelevant.
47. choice of neighbors
E Andrews ,   belfast ireland   (03.30.13)
No use crying about your choice of neighbors the Jews moved to that neighborhood from all over the world. There's no point now of letting fear stop you from doing what is right. You could own all the land from the Red sea to red china and your borders still won't be safe. Trust on man trust in God, make peace with the Palestinians and make it worth their while to be your neighbors
48. Notice that #2,7 and 16 never have a reply
Jerome ,   Basalt, Colorado   (03.30.13)
to even try to stick up for what they babbled. Lib tarted people have a mental disorder that cannot be helped.
49. THANK YOU STUPID US JEWS
FOOTSIE ,   SEA GATE   (03.30.13)
50. Terrorist Yasser Arafat !!!
Egyptian ,   Egypt   (03.30.13)
the writer rebukes Obama for standing while the pic of "terrorist "Arafat hanging behind him !! isn't he the same Arafat who was given Nobel Peace prize by the West !! didn't you allow to return to the Territories to lead the peace process !! you israelis squeezed as much concessions as possible from him and eventually poisioned him and now calling him a terrorist .
51. Horing/go back to yur bikers of bandits and mongols Triads
yisrael   (03.30.13)
Horing listen! And dont forget: / go back to ur drug-dealer-clans in Texas and Florida and Mexico, to ur bikers of BANDITS and Mongols Triads and ur gypsi-famil. the drugdealers of europe. all these clans what are best connected with Iran and Afghanisten = u have nothing lost in Israel ! the land of sincere Yews !! And do NOT FORGET to take your gerschfield with u that brain-washer and destroyer of yewish values and spirit
52. #9 Walid = Sorry you are oh so wrong
Norbus ,   JERUSALEM   (03.30.13)
Glad you made a living publishing articles in high profile western magazines. Readers are those who do not have a deep understanding of history so they readily swallowed your local stories . What your experience says, and the reality tell us are miles apart. The anger and hatred has deeper roots and stems from seeds laid centuries back at the beginning . Islam spread and prospered by the sword of MUhammed, Ali, Abu Baker If ever there was any chance to moderate and change course the rise of Wahabism killed it 250 years ago, and yusef Kutb buried it 90 years ago The answer sadly will be forced on Islam through serious food and water shortage, and a belated realisation that the masses have been used by the clergy and politicians and controlled through denying them enlightenment and education .
53. Obama & Ha'aretz
Rube Vogel ,   Jerusalem   (03.30.13)
Obama has come a long way. From espousing an anti-Israel point of view to espousing an Israel leftist (Ha'aretz) point of view. Unfortunately for him, a vast majority of Israeli's find the Ha'aretz spin on reality wrong-headed and offensive. Obama needs to continue his education and understand that the true argument in Israel is not over "Eretz Yisrael" or if Jewish vandalism needs to be prosecuted (of course it does) but only if a true peace is possible with the Palestinians and when, if ever, there will be a real price for ongoing terror.
54. To 29, Zipi.
Luiz F Haddad ,   Niteroi, Brazil   (03.30.13)
Dear Zipi, as a friend of Israel, I fully understand your comment. The frontiers before June 1967 can't be restored. They do endanger your country, that was attacked several times, and, till today, is not recognized by almost all Arab world. But a Palestinian State must, verily, exist, into West Bank and Gaza, beside of Israel. If it does not, your State will be mixed, not Jewish. J'lem's government has to say: "We accept the "new State", but with redrawed borders and demilitarized, through a honoured peace's agreement". Out of it, nothing done. Period. Good Passover.
55. Ms. Horing, a very educated person but terribly shortsighted
Rachel Rabin ,   TA, Israel   (03.30.13)
I wish you could use your influence and eloquence to secure our future in peace with a Palestinian State. I so wish.
56. #50 You are right and wrong
Logic ,   Israel   (03.31.13)
You are right and wrong on some points. Arafat was indeed an underhanded dirty terrorist who signed the Oslo Accords in bad faith (he announced right afterwards his plan to abrogate it at the right time), but Egypt's Sadat and Jordan's King Hussein on the other hand were honest and respectable leaders even though they were former bitter enemies who kept their word. In regards to the West, the Europeans especially love to bestow honors upon the terrorists who harm Israel. You are right that Israel allowed Arafat and the PLO to return to the territories, which proved to be a disaster for citizens of Israel and the Palestinians. In regards to concessions, Israel gave up the big cities in the disputed territories east of the Green Line and pulled out of all of Gaza and offered a two state deal and withdrawal to the 1967 borders with land swaps several times which were declined by the PLO. The PLO gave almost nothing in return and we are no closer to peace than in 1992.
57. the only man in the cabinet
layzer shimon cynamo ,   beitar illit israel   (03.31.13)
bs'd shoula romano horing's-I take the liberty to call it- "outrage" reminds me of Ben Gurions' statement about Golda Meier "....she's the only man in the cabinet" and living proof that the women have greater merit than the men in the battle for Erets Israel....
58. If only we could trust B H Obama Yes why not?
Martin ,   SA   (03.31.13)
If only BH Obama would have offer us the equal number of F 16s perhaps we could trust him. If morsi was elected pres of Egypt we could also trust BHO. If Gaza rocket were directed to the medt If only we could trust B H Obama Yes why not? If only BH Obama would have offer us the equal number of F 16s perhaps we could trust him. If morsi was elected pres of Egypt we could also trust BHO. If Gaza rocket were directed to the Mediterranean sea all 1600 even in nov and also in dec 2011 we could trust BHO. BH O said we need to take difficult risks we should trust him. Did BH O take revenge since nov 2011 can we say he didnt so we should trust him. If there were no 67 borders we could trust BHO. If there were 1921 or 1947 borders could we trust him. If the arab league the mB and alQada disbanded and burnt their charter in public and rent their coats in regret perhaps we could trust BHO. Israel must trust its self-reliance. Bennet dont loose your focus. Bibi after the honey moon lets travel back to reality land. Thanks to the author for stimulating some healthy response to the pre-pesach charade. Am Yisroel Chai.
59. Trust the 23rd aRab state headed by BH O
Martin ,   SA   (03.31.13)
Trust at least Senate and Congress to for now to ensure no dangerous stuff is placed on the table.
60. Obama fooled you again
withheld ,   Copenhagen, Denmark   (03.31.13)
He is a politician. The fact that he says nice words, well that's part of his role. This is the first time he visits Israel since he entered office in 2009, I think that speaks louder than the cheesy words of praise he gave in Jerusalem. I am sad to see Israeli politicians dancing around at his tune, as if they are grateful he did Israel a favor?! He held a speech in Cairo some years ago, saying that Israel emerged because of the Holocaust. Talking straight to the hearts and minds of millions of Holocaust deniers world wide. I am sorry but to me he is an actor. I don't believe he means half the stuff he says
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