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Obama still can't be trusted
Shoula Romano Horing
Published: 30.03.13, 15:13
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61. Americans with more than...
Gideon Reader   (03.31.13)
...an I.Q. that is the combined equal of their shoe and jock size do not trust this travesty in the White House. Why should; why would any rational Israeli trust him? ZerObama is after all the ideal personna of one who is untrustworthy.
62. To: No. 16
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (03.31.13)
First of all, you are an idiot who clearly has no idea of how United States foreign aid to Israel is structured. Just so you know, the United States reaps the lion's share of the benefit. That said -- the United States dumps trillions of dollars into sewers such as Pakistan, Egypt, Jordan and a whole host of other dead-end countries. I don't hear the United States demanding a "say" in how those countries run their affairs. Do you? So shut the f**k up, climb back aboard your barstool and continue doing that which you do best. You're a drunken fool, not an intellectual. Stick to that which you know.
63. Paranoia in need of medication
Mark ,   Cleveland USA   (03.31.13)
What this author needs, along with most of the the talkback writers, is medication for paranoia. We did steamroll the Arabs when we arrived in Palestine in the 20s, 30s and 40s. They are angry because we didn't care then, as we don't care now, about them and their interests. The Palestinians are not all Muslim fanatics. They are poor people who are being victimized by the Jews, Iran, the Arab League and most of their leaders to date. We need to search a little harder for our Jewish neshamas, and show compassion, and assist them to regain their footing. To date, the only groups pretending to care about them are Arab. We should give it a try.
64. Bravo Shoula!
Myna ,   London / Israel   (03.31.13)
It is good to realize that there are still Israelis / Jews who can see the true colors and remain realistic. Israel must not trust such incompetence and careless pressure from anyone. Jerusalem should never be divided again and having a Palestinian state in Yehuda & Shomron will create another Hamstan. The Arabs do not want peace, with Israelis/Jews. They are anti-Semites have their 22 countries to which they can return.
65. writing
layzer shimon cynamo ,   beitar illit israel   (03.31.13)
bs'd with all due respect, and in my humble opinion Mark, it's your writing which is a disgusting piece of writing...if you can actually call it writing at all....sorry...my opinion
66. would USA take in no Koreans
Nola lev ,   Los Angeles   (03.31.13)
Obama talks the talk but what else? Would he allow millions of them, Taliban ( Pashtuns), VC ,rev guards etc in this country? Why send 2 B1s to drop fake bombs. Was it due to concerns about our being nuked? For real? 6 m Jews vs 500m Arabs/1.4b Muslims. And Israelis are told to yearn for peace and take risks no matter their history? Would Hagel or Kerry compromise with al Qaeda?
67. NOT NEEDED
Mark of Lewiston ,   USA   (03.31.13)
Obama doesn't need trust from the Israeli right wing or from any American right winger. If you don't like his ideas, just say "no." You are free to do what and when you will. If you have better ideas, fine. Whatever floats your boat. As for Gaza and Lebanon, every single solitary thing israel asked for in the negotiations leading up to the land for peace exchange was delivered to Israel on time and as requested. Every single item demanded.
68. Credentials
Michael ,   Haifa   (03.31.13)
Are this woman's opinions any more trustworthy ? What makes her so arrogant to criticize a man who is trying to assist us ?
69. Money talks
Noah lev ,   Los Angeles   (03.31.13)
There are strings attached to us money and support. But what about the palis. They are under no pressure to compromise anything. Obama Axelrod Emanuel, schumer Feinstein, pelosi Reid all leftists are playing games with Jewish lives by 3 b year and iron dome gelt. But what choices do they have? Words and money are squeezing Israel.
70. Shoula Romano Horing Article
Ali ,   Palestine   (03.31.13)
In case of no Palestinian State , what the Israelis are looking for !!! One state with 2 nations O.K. , if not how they want the 5.5 million Palestinians to live on the historical Palestine !! Israelis should know that no way to act as an apartheid state in the 21 century !! In case of Israel is looking for peace , let the 5.5 Palestinians live in peace too !
71. "the Amateur"
tiki ,   belgium   (03.31.13)
After reading this book about Obama, one sees how he plays Mr. Nice guy and uses all his charm & smiles to get where he wants to be, only to abandon these 'new best friends' when he doesn't need them anymore. He might have changed his attitude, but not his goals.
72. #62
Deborah Goldberg ,   Jacksonville,U.S.A.   (03.31.13)
Shoula Romano Horing is a real lawyer who accomplishes much,unlike yourself. You are a truly vulgar individual who has accomplished absolutely nothing worthwhile . How pathetic that you have nothing better to do then spew your impotent venom on talkbacks. Deborah Goldberg
73. "Land for Peace" is an outdated concept. Peace for Peace is
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Qatzrin, Israel   (03.31.13)
the only reasonable approach by rational peace loving people. And, Mr. Obama appears to be a rational person.
74. 62 Bush threat to cut aid achieved resultand
lydia ,   Brisbane   (03.31.13)
and he wasn't the only one. US financial largesse is what Israel lives on including US loans guarantees. You shut the fcuk up because America is again threatening to cut Israel aid. Why should the US taxpayers continue to fund a bunch of racist murdering ingrates.
75. To #7: Ignorance is bliss, ah?!
Taz Man ,   USA   (03.31.13)
God bless Israel!
76. #9 every Jew is a Zionist - also you
Lemmings Hotline ,   sd usa   (03.31.13)
You said "my mother was a Jew from Cairo". That makes you a jew that was raised amongst the nations. Also, believe it or not, the moslems are also Zionists, even if they don't admit it. The moslems say they believe in the prophets, so when it says in Psalm 132 - God has chosen Zion ... forever", does forever mean until Mohamed shows up? The moslems pray on temple mount with their behinds towards "Zion" (the holy of holys) and prostrate towards Mecca... If your mother is jewish, that means you are also a jew. Maybe you should figure out what that means before you have to repeat the process over again.
77. #63
Linichka ,   Gdynia, Poland   (03.31.13)
Thanks for the laugh, Cleveland Mark. You seem to believe that the Palis are nice people whose feelings are hurt because we don't "care" about them. I guess billions of dollars in aid for decades and constant broad gestures of help by Israeli Jews over more than a century do not count as "caring"? Well, chum, I have to say I've never seen a worse investment than the Palis. Their sole production has been terrorism. I think of that classic example: the Gaza teen whose burns were treated by doctors at Soroka Hospital. She received world-class care, gratis - and then attempted to smuggle explosives, for the stated purpose of detonating at the hospital and killing as many innocent people as possible. Including those who provided her expert care. Now Markie, boy, if you want to coddle such people, you go right ahead, from your safe and sound seat in the U.S.A.
78. #6
Jarda ,   Czech Republic   (03.31.13)
Few years ago, one man tried to build sovereign nation-state of the German people in their ancestral homeland between rivers Oder and Weichsel.
79. (63) Mark, Cleveland USA
tiki ,   belgium   (03.31.13)
Give it another try Mark. This 'explanation of yours of the Arab love doesn't even come close to reality. You shouldn't search for more Jewish neshama, but for more Jewish history books! Reading the Torah/Bible or even the Koran might bring you back to reality!
80. India, China, Brazil.. let's get new parnters
Keren, IL-BR   (03.31.13)
America in reality never accepted Israel. The Department of State never hided the hate for the Jewish State. Our only partner is the Congress which is changing rapidly with the influx of Latinos. America forced us to leave Egypt in 1956, forced us to go into Madrid in 1990 and forced us to Oslo. Russia and China should be our new allies. These are rich countries sensitive to terrorism. We have to start cooperating with them.
81. I absolutely agree with you!
Mira ,   Vienna   (03.31.13)
He is a "Rattenfänger", a brilliant rhetoric with no good acts to follow. I did not trust him before he came and when he left I trusted him even less. He threw sands in Israels eyes so the malicious pressure that will follow soon might not be seen so clearly.
82. #63; Self hating Jew- stop siding with Arabs
Avi ,   Miami, Fl   (03.31.13)
You are worrying about the Jewish Neshama - soul. You sold your soul against your own people and adopted the lies and propaganda of the Arab enemies without trying to read on your own what really happened.. The Jews did not streamroll the Arabs in the 20, 30, 40; The Arabs were wandering all over the MIddle East in the nothing desert with their camals and sheep with their tents and NOthing else till the Jews arrived in 1882 tot he land of Israel and flourished the desert and built hospitals and factories and infrastructure and economic opportunities . This is when all those Arabs from all over the Middle East decided to come into the land to take advantage of the opportunities the Jews created. Since then they spread hatred and violence and lies and pathetic stories of victimhood the Jews have created an amazing flurishing democratic state with equal rights to all including the 20% Arab Israelis . The Arabs in Israel got more freedoms than they get in their own Arab countires. You as a Jew should be proud of the generous kind Jewish spirit. and should be smart enough to realize to search for the truth.
83. # 63 you are so right, Mark
Kobi Martin ,   Tel Aviv   (03.31.13)
If you go back in time, most of the arguments reproduced here at nausean against the US, against the Two State Solutions were heard in newspapers before Yamit withdrawal, Oslo Accords, Gaza withdrawal. They bark.. and the caravan goes. Obama is a great leaders. As were Clinton and Carter. These guys did more for Israel than any other leader in our History. Just image if we had not make peace with Egypt... Even Jordan.. you will find delusional people here that hate that Kingdom which has been so good to protect our East border. No matter what they say, there will be two States in this land. But, don't waste your time here Mark.. they all need medicine and a good shrink.
84. It isn't obama's money
BUILD BABY BUILD !!! ,   United States   (03.31.13)
it is the American peoples money and they overwhelmingly support Israel, obama, not so much.
85. (83) Kobi
tiki ,   belgium   (03.31.13)
Sadat & Begin were the great leaders who made peace! Carter was/is a anti Jewish opportunist and the worst US president ever with Obama not far behind (having done nothing in the 4+ years of his presidency besides getting prizes for being Obama). Clinton was great for the economy, uprooted Yamit, but despite all his efforts couldn't sign an Israeli/Palestinian peace treaty to his legacy, not because of the lack of Jewish neshama, but because Arafat said no! These are the facts. You should check them. It's not that difficult!
86. Obama will try to play nice to the leftists and
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.31.13)
to promote the SELLOUT of Jewish land ! HE IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER FOR ISRAEL !
87. Right-wing Israelis and their Christian supporters
TaylorT ,   Earth   (03.31.13)
Obviously logic cannot reach people who believe in the fairy tales of the Bible. I'm afraid only pain will change their opinions, and that pain will begin to happen in a few years when Israel finds itself sanctioned by the UNSC, its leaders indicted for war crimes, and its economy boycotted and in shambles. After years of this pain, Israel will finally find the courage to do what it should have done all along: that is, do what needs to be done to give the Palestinians a viable state. And when this happens, Israelis will (at last) find peace. I know this will be confusing for the many posters here who have bought into the "Arabs = bad, Jews = good" narrative. A smart and wise people would do what needs to be done without having to be forced. Obviously we're dealing with neither a smart nor wise people as these are people who believe in the fairy tales of the Old and New Testaments.
88. inheritance
layzer shimon cynamo ,   beitar illit israel   (03.31.13)
bs'd if you inherit an apartment building full of tenants, who does the building belong to? in the koran it states that moses says to the jews "G-d has given you the land, go into it" these geniuses of arabs,christians and yes, them jews that are against themselves,obviously think G-d has made a terrible mistake...oy oy oy
89. #87, TaylorT's fairy tales
Steve K ,   Earth   (03.31.13)
What TaylorT calls "fairy tales" predicted thousands of years back, the children of Jacob would be re-gathered back into our homeland, the land of Israel. Israel has been re-constituted as the Jewish people's National Home / nation-state just as TaylorT's "fairy tales" predicted. Yet TaylorT has his own fairy tales. He places his faith in largely criminal institutions like the United Nations, the International Criminal Court (ICC), etc., to which TaylorT bows down to, prays to for moral and spiritual guidance, and burns incense to.
90. What a childish article
Markie ,   Amsterdam, Holland   (03.31.13)
The assumption lying underneath the author's views is that politics and diplomacy must be measured by the same standards that one applies to friendship between people. To say that any true friend of Israel would have demanded the removal of Arafat's portrait, while speaking with Abbas, is just child talk. I guess President Peres is not a true friend of Israel either because he shook hands with Arafat (not to mention Rabin and many others).
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