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Published: 11.04.13, 17:22
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61. Sarah @ 45 - I know you won't like this one ,...
split ,   US   (04.14.13)
"It is the Jewish police who are cruelest toward the condemned" - Scroll of Agony: The Warsaw Diary of Chaim A. Kaplan ,... "at times greater than that of the Germans, the Ukrainians and the Latvians" - Jewish historian and the Warsaw Ghetto archivist Emanuel Ringelblum describing cruelty of the ghetto police ,...
62. split, Justine, Konrad, your legacy
Cynthia ,   USA   (04.14.13)
You can point fingers all you like and try to outrun or rewrite history. But the bottom line is that the majority of death camps, concentration camps and ghettos were built in Poland. Three million Jewish Polish citizens were murdered in their own country. They were handed over to the Germans. The Poles stood by as innocent men, women and children were beaten, tortured, starved, shot, raped and burned alive outside their doors. Some righteous Poles risked their lives to save Jews but the majority did nothing or were complicite in the death of their neighbors. After their murder, the Polish government confiscated Jewish property and to this day, refuses to return it to the rightful Jewish owners. You walk down your streets and know there are homes that once belonged to murdered Jews. You walk into people's homes and wonder if the possessions in these homes once belonged to Jewish neighbors and you enter antique stores and can imagine these items were stolen from a population that not too long ago owned them. From a cross cultural standpoint, the soul is not at rest until there is a proper burial. Your entire country is a graveyard for Jews who were murdered in the most violent and brutal manner. This is your legacy and from your writings, it clearly haunts you.
63. More to 54 ,...
split ,   US   (04.14.13)
Casimir the Great didn't have to invite them there were tens of thousands of them already there and kept coming prior to his reign. He speeded up their invasion during his reign by relaxing restrictions and granting privileges ,...
64. To: Cynthia at No. 62
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.14.13)
Thank you for your beautiful post. Only two corrections: 1. Jews were never citizens of Poland. 2. Split is not haunted by anything. He is a dyed-in-the-wool anti-Semite and that, sadly, is not a treatable disease. Take comfort in the fact that Israel is thriving, and Poland is sinking ever more into the abyss. The only thing that haunts the likes of Split is that there are no longer Jews to blame for the demise of Poland.
65. To: No. 61
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.14.13)
Yeah, you quote Noam Chomsky -- a discredited self-hating Jew -- too. What, am I supposed to be impressed by the alleged writings of some Jews that have never been authenticated. There are the verbal testimonies of Jews from Poland who survived. Their acrimony is directed chiefly to the cruel Poles. Are you going to discount all of their testimony? It's on the record. So, St. Paul was also a Jew. There is no law against misbegotten and misguided Jews. You'll have to do better than that to counter the testimonies of tens of thousands of Jews -- if not more -- whose accounts of the behavior of the Poles during World War II is far too similar and far too compelling to be ignored. You're beating a dead horse. The world knows precisely the role played by the Poles in the demise of the Jews. Why can you not come to terms with your past?
66. To: No. 58
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.14.13)
I suggest that you muster up your third grade reading skills and check history, pinhead. Of course it will come as quite a surprise to you -- but no mystery there.
67. to Cynthia
Justine   (04.15.13)
I can't talk for the others but I can for myself. I may be "haunted" sometimes but I must say this sensation diminishes considerably after reading posts like yours. What a selection of brain-washed, twisted platitudes and insinuations! How many times do we have to explain why concentration camps were built in Poland? How many time to we have to tell you that the Germans didn't ask for permission to murder 3 million Jews AND 2-3 millions non-Jewish Poles? It's like talking to a wall! And no, we don't "wonder if the possessions in these homes once belonged to Jewish neighbors" because we're not obsessed with such things. We lost goods in this war and during communism - our cities in the East, our palaces, our monuments, the manors of our nobility...some buildings in the "shtetls" and ruins of generic tenement houses in Warsaw will not replace that.
68. Cynthia @ 62
split ,   US   (04.15.13)
"majority of death camps, concentration camps and ghettos were built in Poland" - Wrong they were build on occupied by Germans land and if you take look at Europe's map and railroad grid knowing German efficiency IT was the cheapest and most convenient location. "The Poles stood by as innocent men, women and children were beaten, tortured, starved, shot, raped and burned alive outside their doors" - What would you want them to do to fight the Germans with pocket-knifes or sickles? Give me a one good reason why, acknowledging that almost 5 million US Jews did nothing to help them? What the hell did the Jews do to save a Pole under Soviet occupation or during 146 years of Poland's patrician? ,... "Polish government confiscated Jewish property and to this day, refuses to return it to the rightful Jewish owners" - Germans confiscated those 'properties' Poles got it back fighting with Allies and winning the war paying with blood. Jewish contingent under Gen. Anders that was suppose to fight along Poles on Allies side deserted in Palestine on the way to Africa stealing everything they could leaving their fellow comrades without weapons, equipment and medications. What Jewish property? A stolen property bought or received for favors from a robber is still stolen property just like the property bought or received for favors in occupied Poland from an occupier is still stolen property. As we know there were no Jewish real estate owners in pre-partitioned Poland (or any country at that time) and 147 years later in some cities and certain parts especially in Russian sector the Jews 'owned' most of it. The emperors were giving away and selling it (names of the owners included) left and right for snitching and favours because they knew it wasn't theirs and one day Poles will take back what's theirs. A squatter is a squatter and even if tolerated on the host soil can't own anything there as squatter ,...
69. @ 60
Konrad ,   Warsaw   (04.15.13)
"There was no "massacre" at Deir Yassin. That myth was debunked long ago". What a great relief! No need to worry about the past anymore. No need to bother about facts. And - how convenient! No need to live in denial. And that wonderful feeling of lily white innocence, of moral superiority. Just priceless.
70. #67 Justine
Cynthia ,   USA   (04.15.13)
You must be very sensitive about this subject if my post had such a strong impact on you. You learned there are people who do not share your opinion or perception of what transpired in Poland during and after the war.
71. To: All Polish denial artists.
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (04.16.13)
Google it. Check it out. Kinderjohren yiddish song from Cracow - YouTube Everyone depicted in the photographs was killed by the Nazis -- or their Polish henchment. You can feel REALLY proud of yourselves, Poles. Really, truly proud. You are responsible for the deaths of baby Jews. Don't you feel just grand? Monsters, is what you are. Depraved and despicable monsters. But that's okay. I'm sure you'll all visit your local pedophile priest, he'll throw some water on you, and declare you free of sin. Yeah, right.
72. Correction to 62 ,...
split ,   US   (04.16.13)
I regard to of death camps locations it should be: if you take look at Europe's map, the railroad grid, the Jewish population dispersion and density area knowing German efficiency it was the cheapest way and most convenient location for to exterminate European Jews... and Gypsies ,...
73. The perspective - to: Sarah B
Chris ,   Poland   (04.16.13)
to Sarah B If the Jewish people were always true to G-d, most likely there would have been no exiles and, by the same token, no woes between the Jews and the Poles. Considering the 'full Polish house' for centuries as well as the numbers themselves, I see the co-existence as still good or even very good. And, what's more, it reflected the hearts of the people and not just appearances - as it would have been the case in Western Europe! Well, if you have an extended family inside your house, you know very well what I mean. Please be assured that if any of my fellow Christians said even 5 per cent of what you have, Sarah - and in the manner you have done it , in my eyes he would be no Christian at all! If Catholics had ever murdered Jews, please be sure they were no Catholics!!! For Christians / Catholics, it is all too clear: either you love your fellow countryman - EVEN your enemy, or you are a hypocrite and not a Christian (of course, the Jewish people were our friends and not enemies). What's more, if a thug happened to be a Pole, to me he would be a thug rather than a Pole. Unfortunately, each country has their share. In the end, why don't you join a Hebrew Catholics forum. I like their Jewish perspective on their own history - full of warmth and truth. I think you would enjoy being part of them, Sarah. I mean it. Kind regards! !
74. Chris @ 73 - Wrong !!! ,...
split ,   US   (04.16.13)
"If Catholics had ever murdered Jews, please be sure they were no Catholics!!!" "What's more, if a thug happened to be a Pole, to me he would be a thug rather than a Pole" Now you're talking just like her and most of them - According to them monsters like Kaganowich, Yagoda responsible for 8-10 million starved to death Ukrainians during one winter 1932/33, Matvei Berman and Naftaly Frenkel, founders of Gulag labor camp system with their buddy Lev Inzhir a commissar of Soviet Gulag camps transit and administration, Firin, Rappoport, Kogan, Zhuk, commissars of camps and slave labor that supervised the construction of the Belomorsk Canal and other projects responsible for at least another 30 million worked/starved to death "enemies of the revolution", supervised Soviet killing industry not to mention the relocation of whole nations like Crimean Tatars to hostile parts of Soviet Union to get rid of them and make a room for their homies, according to Sarah B and her hasbara goons they were COMMUNISTS not Jews ,...
75. More to 74 ,...
split ,   US   (04.16.13)
By the way if you read hasbara goons you can get an impression that there was a hot line for Poles to report (for profit) hiding Jews and there was a long waiting line to report but as some of us know as a fact that any proven case of reporting on location of hiding Jews or anyone to Germans was judged by Polish underground resistance court and if found guilty punished by death ,...
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