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Haredim advised to emigrate from Israel
Moshe Heller
Published: 13.05.13, 14:10
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31. Israel is making a big mistake by demonizing Haredim.
Jake ,   USA   (05.13.13)
Judaism can survive without Israel. Israel cannot survive with Judaism.
32. let me help them
marko ,   tel aviv   (05.13.13)
Pls. alow me to buy each and every one of them a fight ticket to Tehrarn
33. Thoughts
Ariel ,   Toronto & Tel Aviv   (05.13.13)
Why we pay everyday stuff to the Palestine's and Haredim. Time to cut some of their major benefits. What they do to help the nation both of them? NOTHING! In a way they are kind of similar. Some Palestines try to explode a bus while Haredim harass physiologic a woman. In Judea and Samaria they throw rock at us while in Beit Shemesh they spit on woman and almost turned that city into a small Iran with their theocracy. Time to really reflect on key issues.
34. Greener pastures elsewhere? I doubt it !
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (05.13.13)
35. Too much publicity
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (05.13.13)
Those extreme fringe haredim are getting too much publicity . Facts are more important. Money is the tool to get them participate in the army, study basic skills. Without the publicity they get in the news and without the means to sustain themselve without working, they will either fold or leave and I would rather they fold
36. 31 Correction: Judaism cannot survive with Haredim
Restorer ,   Israel   (05.13.13)
Without the Haredim strangling Judaism, Israel will improve
37. I with mark @18, Jake @ 20
Norman ,   Boca Raton / USA   (05.13.13)
And others. But who would take all of them? Also, Jewish demographics would be adversely impacted by their exodus. The non-Jewish population of Israel/West Bank would quickly and by far surpass the Jewish population. While unpleasant, it may be best to keep the fertile Haredim in Israel.
38. Don't serve in the army, better leave the country
Dov ,   Brazil   (05.13.13)
Don't serve in the army without a very good reason (which might even be to study the Torah in some cases!), better leave the country - great idea!!!! What are they waiting?
39. Actually, Seth (and Jake) some countries DO support such ...
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (05.13.13)
I try to avoid the word "parasites" you use, but there are indeed countries in Europe that, while not welcoming, are supporting, in Jake's words, "welfare recipients who don't even bother to learn the local language or anything else enabling them to work". One recent report, for example, claims some 80% of ethnic Turks of working age in Germany are not working, but take untold Billions in social payments. They're so generous (much more so than the US) that some youngsters claim when they grow up they want to ... go on the dole! In the UK, the courts won't allow the state to send some terror supporters back where they came from, nor hold them in prison, so they set them free and ... allow them to go on welfare, even providing them with housing.
40. Blaming the Jews for all and everything
2Mad ,   גולה בצרפת   (05.13.13)
works very well everywhere. As elites are going to munch the benefits of gaz fields, increased taxes and lower then ever involvement of state, it's no surprise that masses are fed with "devil with black hat" propaganda. Nothing new under the sun.
41. Haredim in Israel
Pro "normal" Haredim   (05.13.13)
Israel needs more normal people like Haredi (TB #1) and his family...these are the quintessential "Good Citizens" who contribute to the commonweal of our nation. The Mea Shearim hordes and other assorted destructive anti-Israel fanatics are the ones who need to leave Medinat Yisrael...the sooner, the better!
42. 31
zionist forever   (05.13.13)
VERY TRUE Love them or hate them the haredim are the soul of the country, the non religious are like the body but a body need a still needs a soul. The Yair Lapids of this world want the body without the soul and if he was able he would deport the entire haredi population but if he did get his way Israel would be just another country unrecognisable from any other country in the developed world. We would very quickly junk the idea of a jewish state, change all the symbols of state to neutral ones that have no connection to any religion. Probably even replace Hebrew with a global language because the only place you see Hebrew outside Israel is in the religious books.
43. #18
Daniel Lang ,   Rimonim   (05.13.13)
Since the Netura Karta has been welcomed in Iran, maybe Iran will take them, or maybe the Palestinians want them.
44. #39 - Pointing finger at others ,...
split ,   US   (05.13.13)
Why do you think those circa 200.000Russian Jews choose Germany not Israel ? ,...
45. A twisted view of Jews Destiny
Deborah ,   miami   (05.13.13)
They see the world hatred towards Jews as a punishment from god. Do they know that during the Nazi ideology, both assimilated Jews and religious one were sent to the death camp? Anyway, when did Jews really found peace with other Nations? Since they were exiled, they were at the mercy of others. Now they have Israel. If one Nation tries again to exterminate us, we will be united and able to defend ourselves. Why going against that? Because that means they have to fight too instead of just warming the yeshiva chairs and wait for miracles.
46. Here is my take on this subject.
Israeli 2   (05.13.13)
The State of Israel should NEVER abandon the TORAH (from Moshe on Sinai). 1) Women who wish not to serve should not serve at all. 1.a) Women who WANT to serve, may serve. 2) Men who are recently married should be deferred for 1 to 3 yrs. 3) Men who are fearful of combat should serve in "Shirut Leumi". Simple. No?
47. @27. Really, where would they go?
Pete ,   Mexico City, Mexico   (05.13.13)
Netanyahu will visit Putin. Maybe he can ask for some space in Siberia.
48. Some truth to this
zetzky   (05.13.13)
USA is a better and more secure place for orthodox Jews. Israel is nice to vacation but the center of economic traffic revolves around NYC.
49. Jake @ #31
Israeli 2   (05.13.13)
The soul can survive without the body The body cannot survive without the soul. Does that make sense? Without the body you cannot see the soul.It needs the body....and without the soul the body does not live. You need both of them. They are inseparable. Israel and Judaism is ONE.
50. This is rich
Scarborough1414 ,   Scarborough, ON   (05.13.13)
Hareidim advised to emigrate? That's rich. As my favourite philosopher Bugs Bunny would say: Arreeva-doichi, bon voy-agee, don't forget to write! But seriously folks, we need to take a harder line with law-breaking thugs who hide behind the Hareidi banner. We need mass arrests, no mollycoddling (in prison they eat what's given to them, if not, starve) and in the case of riots, open fire with rubber bullets and in extreme cases, real bullets. The tail cannot wag the dog. Secular vigilantes will eventually arise and entrap Hareidi thugs and punish them themselves. Who needs that? Jews don't do that? Don't bet on it.
51. It's not happening
Vlad   (05.13.13)
No other country will want them, and for good reason.
52. Please don't let them go
Walter ,   Germany   (05.13.13)
We don't want them, too. We will give you another submaribe for free if you keep them. Deal?
53. Mass exodus
Raptor   (05.13.13)
Given that these folks are the world's greatest freeloaders let's keep things in proportion. Every taxi owner should contribute one free ride to the airport. IAF should provide mass transportation to key cities in Europe and USA. Shufersal and Mega etc. should all contribute a food parcel enough to last for a few days. The banks should all contribute a $100 bill in the pocket of each adult and a $50 bill for each child. Upon the departure of each flight a military band should be present to play "so long it's been good to know you" Am I being sarcastic ? That's for you to decide.
54. Haradim advised to leave Israel
Beth ,   Raanana   (05.13.13)
Don't let the door hit you in the 'tuchus' on your way out!
55. Happy independence day when those parasite
David Fakheri ,   Los angles USA   (05.14.13)
Happy independence day when those parasite in the community or become like every other human-being in our society or leave us for ever to the places that they really belong to, to the " galluts and Gettose "! David Fakheri
56. They can't. No free money elsewhere
jean ,   New York, New York   (05.14.13)
What other country will give them free everything so they can live? I doubt they will leave because no other country will do for them what Israel has done for them.
57. Haredim advised to emigrate
Jerry ,   Home   (05.14.13)
Gaza is a suitable destination. Hamas, under Article Seven f their "Charter" will do the rest.
58. WELFARE
tom ,   NEW YORK   (05.14.13)
THE UNITED STATES HAS IMMIGRANTS WHO COME FOR THE WELFARE BENEFITS,HOWEVER, THEY HAVE TO WORK 5 YEARS TILL THEY ATTAIN CITIZENSHIP.
59. Disgusted by the comments on here. Youre guilty of the same
(05.14.13)
things you accuse these people. Youre judgemental, youre too quick to judge. You dont see the positive. Put bluntly the Jewish people would not be arond today there would be no Israel if our ancestors were not super religious and willing to sacrifice their lives in Muslim and Christian countries for eons.... What these people need is gentle encouragement combined with much respect for their way of life. Dont force seculairms on them. teach them a trade so they dont rely on government. i have news for you arabs also rely on handouts too. Do you feel hatred their too?
60. good buy .. have a nice life .
alan ash ,   nyc ny   (05.14.13)
at least in their country they will have to pay and be contributing members of the country . not like the leeches like they are now
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