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Haredim advised to emigrate from Israel
Moshe Heller
Published: 13.05.13, 14:10
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61. #14 has the solution
Cameron ,   USA   (05.14.13)
That strange, introverted lot is definitely not value added. A brand new air craft carrier, with all the bells & whistles, is yours if you make sure they pack off to Warsaw.
62. Secular Atheist occupying Israel
Abbe Filkenstein ,   TEL AVIV   (05.14.13)
The best of all solutions for the pure jews, arabs, beduins , samaritans and drusim, were if all the secular bastards will leave Israel and go to eastern europe and elswhere as they are so well educated, and leave Israel to the Arabs where the real jews will live a million time better among them, than among all this erevrav cruel atheist.
63. Flying El-Al
Mendoza ,   Tel-Aviv, Israel   (05.14.13)
After they leave and dont return will then be bearable, well almost.
64. @ Israeli 2 - #46
M. Davison ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (05.14.13)
Your “take” is more than a bit weird, for the most part… “The State of Israel should NEVER abandon the TORAH (from Moshe on Sinai).” No one has suggested that we abandon the Torah. What we want to abandon are the parasitic cults that have distorted Judaism to work for their benefit at the expense of others. 1) “Women who wish not to serve should not serve at all.” No. Women who do not wish to serve in the military should have the option of serving a Sherut Leumi. Some kind of service should be universal, and include both Arab women (and Arab men, while we’re at it) and Haredi women. 1.a) “Women who WANT to serve, may serve.” Agreed. 2) “Men who are recently married should be deferred for 1 to 3 yrs.” In today’s modern world, men who marry at 18 or less are anathema. Such marriages should be looked on with as much suspicion as “Green Card” marriages are looked upon in the US. One could also make the argument that a married man, especially a married man with children, which he would be after a deferment of 3 years) has more reason to defend his home than a single man, not less. 3) “Men who are fearful of combat should serve in ‘Shirut Leumi’.” In that case, you’ll have no one but psychologically damaged people or fools willing to serve in combat units. Any reasonably normal human being is “fearful of combat”, only people who are either psychologically damaged or people so stupid that they’re not worth training are not fearful.
65. Blessed are those who got a chance to live in Israel!
Jew1 ,   Ashdod   (05.14.13)
This land is our promised land. We are blessed to be here and to see the promise getting fulfilled. You love this land and she loves you back. The promised land - full with honey, dates and food. There is work for everyone (those who want to work). Do not insult this land and she will really vomit you out.
66. Shame on all of you
isaac pifer ,   Fresh Meadows   (05.14.13)
What ever your criticizims are right or wrong . You should be ashamed of yourself. You are talking like the nazies . We all have our own faults one way or another . But I guess its much easier to see others faults. I'm chradie who works and supports two fatherless children killed in the war .As long as we dont have peace within ourselfs you'll never see peace with anybody including Arabs and within your own conscience !!
67. 59 Our ancestors kept Tora, NOT like Haredim chilul hashem!
kippah seruga ,   Israel   (05.14.13)
68. Racism much?
Michael ,   Melbourne, Australia   (05.14.13)
Replace Hareidim with Jews and 2013 with the 1930's and you racist bigots that are commenting here sound like a bunch of Nazis
69. They have NOT to leave
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (05.14.13)
here the conditions : 1] begin to work , don't live at our expenses 2] contribute to the security of the State 3] give your children also an education that allows them to earn their life 4] don't impose your lifestyle on us . There is NO country in the world , exept Israel , where charedim don't work . Why abroad and not here ? Don't try to make us believe that your "study" protect us . We have seen this "protection" some 70 years ago .
70. #59:So there wouldn't have been Jews around today, so what?
tom ,   tel aviv   (05.14.13)
You&me wouldn't be here to bemoan that fact, right? There are many peoples that vanished through history... It's just a cold& insignificant fact. I don't have 10 brothers&sisters, because they were never born: is that a tragedy? The only one that I can see loosing the whole shop is the Merciful One, up in the black sky....but that's his/her problem. So as you see, this "argument" is totally irrelevant. The Followers of Imaginary Friend can follow him to world's end, but they cannot force the rest of us to schlep along or pay for the ticket.
71. @3
Rolly ,   Tampa, US   (05.14.13)
While I wholeheartedly agree with you, I would like to point out though, that here in the U.S. haredim do not always work for a living. Take the case of the village of Monsey and Kfar Yoel in upstate N.Y. Populated almost exclusively by Satmar Hasidim (Kfar Yoel), most of the men spend all their time warming chairs and benches in a yeshiva. The area has one of the highest percentages in the U.S. of families on welfare and other types of public assistance. Local, and state politicians are loath to make a stink about it, because come election time, the local rebbes can and will deliver all their followers' votes as one solid block.
72. The New Covenant book of Revelation speaks of a great eagle
Rivkah   (05.14.13)
that protects the third of Israel in the latter days of Gentile world rule, the third of Israel who survive to see the Messiah come, (Revelation chapter 12). Perhaps the third of Israel are the Haredim who go to America are the ones who survive. The place where they are taken, those who survive, is called Petra on the wings of a great eagle (USA). That could not be Petra in Jordan since it is not necessary to fly to Jordan on wings of eagles (USA, eagles). Perhaps the Haredim should migrate to America and then Israel will learn that without those who sing the Song of Moses, 2/3 of the nation will die without the protection of those who try to keep the Commandments of Yahweh. See if the swine eating Russian immigrants who love vodka and violence and fornication can protect Israel with guns and weapons not of HaShem. Revelation chapter 7 speaks of the 144,000 of the Tribes of Israel who are sealed by Yahweh, 12,000 from each Tribe, who cannot be harmed by the Anti-Christ, the false Messiah Israel will accept in a Covenant with Death Daniel spoke of in the Covenant book of Daniel. Yes, by all means, let the religious leave Israel and come to America, the Petra for them. Then the swine eaters and cursers and fornicators and the violent will learn how much they needed those who study Torah and Tanakh in Yeshivas who will be gone. A bitter lesson that will be.
73. Novel - Haredi Christian (Becky #72)
Israeili Jew ,   Israel   (05.14.13)
Roman replacement theology, medieval European replacement theology - no difference
74. #43
mark ,   ca   (05.14.13)
Only as a propaganda tool for a short visit.They have more then enough freeloaders of their own.:-))
75. # 72..One mans porn is another mans Revelations...
Edithann ,   USA   (05.14.13)
Get your head out of that nonsense and come down to earth..That nonsense has been around for 3000 years and not once has it ever come close.. TATA
76. You israelis...
Erika ,   Austin TX USA   (05.14.13)
want to achieve peace, but there's not even peace among yourselves haha... good luck with that!!
77. #72 What are you smoking?
Deborah ,   Miami   (05.14.13)
78. #42, Teach Hebrew in the U.S..
Michael ,   California, USA   (05.15.13)
Many Israelis in the U.S. support themselves through giving Hebrew lessons. Hebrew is very popular among many academics. Almost every larger university in the U.S. has a Hebrew teaching faculty as part of its linguistics department.
79. Haredi views
Avraham ,   Ottawa Canada   (05.15.13)
Might I suggest that a generous special fund be established to facilitate their one way passage to Galuth.
80. # 77..Trying to palm you're garbage on the rest of the world
Edithann ,   USA   (05.15.13)
is obscene....Any way you look at it, it's racism of your own, by you're own..and all at it's worst... Read what I said and try to understand it..or better still, take in a Haredim family as you're special project and let me know how your kindness payed off in 10 years.. Make sure they don't get on US welfate...help them youself!! TATA
81. 77 Devorah, Miami: Holy Smoke of the Ruach HaKodosh.
(05.15.13)
Those who enter HaShem's eternal kingdom must sing the song of Moses (obey the commandments that are everlasting commandments in the Torah) and the song of the Lamb (believe Yehoshua of Nazareth is the Messiah who came as a sacrificial lamb and will return as the lion of Judah who died and was resurrected with a physical body to atone for the sins of those who believe in Him). ELS Scripture codes matrices show 50% of Jews enter God's Kingdom while only 7% of Christians enter God's Kingdom. Why? Jews are more likely to believe in Yehoshua of Nazareth as the Messiah than Christians are to obey the laws of Moses. Yehoshua said those who love Him would obey His commandments (Torah not Talmud which are man-made commandments).
82. 76 Erika, Austin, TX, USA: Peace will only come with
Rivkah   (05.15.13)
the Jewish Messiah Yehoshua when He comes to establish the Milleniah Kingdom before the final rebellion. People can have shalom peace in their hearts if they know Yahweh/Yehoshua and the Ruach HaKodosh. Yehoshua of Nazareth did not come to bring peace to the world but a sword and division, Scriptures tells us. Those who are not in God's camp will despise those who are which is not peace but a sword.
83. Haredim Leave Israel
Rick S. ,   USA   (05.15.13)
What a great idea. These parasites who live off the State but do nothing but pray all day, who do not fight to defend their country, who multiply like rats, treat women like dirt, etc,etc. etc. They would be welcome with open arms in Iran, I'm That many other countries would l am sure that many other countries would love to have them as well. I hope that the Jewish Taliban will be happy wherever they go. Have a wonderful trip and don't let the door hit you on your way out.
84. All that Judaism hate and it comes down to Jew hating Jew...
Edithann ,   USA   (05.15.13)
Looks like there is no love between Jews..Then what the hell is Judaism all about anyway? Again it has to do with money!! Those poor Haredi...now they want to foist their garbage Jews on the rest of the unsuspecting world... Are the ones left behind really any different.? It's only in degrees.. .The Haredi take up too much US money and they have to leave....so the rest can feeload on US money...What's the real difference? NONE! TATA TATA
85. Rabbi Moshe Dov Beck - must be the long awaited messiah
Reuven ,   Netanya   (05.15.13)
This rabbi, my dear readers, is our messiah. If they would listen to his words, this would be the beginning of our rescue, the salvation of Israel. Why does nobody sees this?
86. No hate
Yehudi ,   United Kingdom   (05.15.13)
Dont we have enough non jews who hate us? why do we also have to hate each other? Live and let live. In peace...
87. heredim please emigrate and help Israel survive
Jewishness ,   ATLANTA GA USA   (05.15.13)
be a mench, take your burdens away from Israel. Give Israel a financial and social break, take your parasites, blood suckers and labor avoiders to...anyplace else...no one cares where you go...just go, and take some of the arab refuse with you.
88. Advice to Haredim to emigrate
Joseph Charlap ,   Jerusalem   (05.15.13)
I fully support the idea. They contribute nothing to the country and only make demands.
89. they will never leave
israeli paratrooper   (05.15.13)
they will never leave , they know no other government will cuddle them and allow them to live as economic parasites
90. #80 - is it really racism?
William ,   Israel   (05.15.13)
Because Pally terrorists have always seen haradi Jews and young secular Jews on the beach as the same viable target....being from the same race, and all.
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