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Thousands of haredim hold anti-draft protest in New York
Kobi Nachshoni
Published: 10.06.13, 09:55
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31. #22 is completely right
mira ,   nyc   (06.10.13)
Thank you for pointing out how completely hypocritical it is, that at the very same time that they battle to control the Kotel, they are refusing to participate in the very body that liberated it and protects it to this day. They are just an embarrassment!
32. Obligation to serve and defend or
Get Real ,   UK   (06.10.13)
abolish the draft law,abolish the IDF, no need for enlistment, and see the annihilation of the Jews when the Islamic extremists take over the State. Time Israel ensured that all play their part one way or another in securing the continued existence of the State. Do not these Americans see what stands between their Israeli brethren and annihilation?
33. Ahhh, who cares?
Ilan ,   Ramat Gan, Israel   (06.10.13)
why would you even think we care what they do allllll the way over there in America? if world war 2 happened all over again, you think the Americans wouldn't draft them? HA!! our harridim WILL go to the army, or go to jail. jail of course being the cheaper option for the state. You know what's really funny though? when i was in the army, most of the haridim soldiers were Americans.........
34. impressed
robert ,   antwerp belgium   (06.10.13)
I am impressed by the fact that the Satmar, who don't see the miracle of the state of Israël, are so many. It shows how strong the power of evil can be since the Satmar have been convinced to turn their back on the millions of Jews living in Israël. I personally pray to Hashem to show the Satmar the way to repentance
35. Suprised at attacks against haredim
Fay Areall ,   Brooklyn, NY   (06.10.13)
Just a few generations ago we all looked and acted Haredi. Are we that self loathing that the need to "fit in" has us hating those that still look like our grand parents or great grand parents? They didn't take up arms and why should we push today's Haredim to do so? Whether they are sitting in shul studying full time or not. I am embarrassed by some of my fellow readers comments here. The Haredi community in New York is a beautiful and productive one. Taking a half a day to come out to publicly protest for the plight of people living across the globe is something most of us would never think of. They did and give them credit where credit is due.
36. This is what happens
(06.10.13)
Now why wouldn't any Jew have the right to speak up his mind? After all Israel belongs to Jews doesn't it? Isn't it what you wanted?
37. #35 you are delusional..I am trying to be nice
Al   (06.10.13)
The Haredi are useless fools. To go in front of the national media and do what they did is no better than the uber left who demonstrate with Hamas and the PLO. I for one will never ever support them. I couldn't care less if they were there in NYC or on the moon. They mean precious little to us Jews who value our heritage and our country of Israel. I've seen how they live, and to say they live beautiful lives is delusional at best. They are myopic selfish idol worshipping cultists so far removed from the Jewish religion that to call them Jews is a misnomer. All of Klal Yisroel would be better off if they all became shamnics. They bring nothing to the table but grief and bisha.
38. #37 You have only yourself to blame. (end)
Fay Areall ,   Brooklyn, NY   (06.10.13)
39. haredim
h.s.cohen ,   n.y.c. usa   (06.10.13)
Cut off their funding now!!!
40. Draft Americans?
KarenSherryBrackett ,   USA   (06.10.13)
This is ridiculous. Israel can not draft Americans. They are not Israeli they are Americans. That is like saying England, Ireland, Scotland, Germany, Russia, China, Japan, etc. etc. could draft Americans. LOL It can not and will not happen. If they freely decide to go, they will be giving up their American citizenship with no guarantees of ever being allowed citizenship again. In fact, if they go they will be denying their pledge of allegiance to America which will make them a traitor of America. Israel is safer having Americans with heritage from the tribes of Israel and all tribes not just the tribe of Judah in America to represent your interests and safety.
41. # 35 Fay
Robert ,   Antwerp Belgium   (06.10.13)
If I understand you properly, your ideal would be that there be no army so that the arabs can beat us up or burn our houses and villages like they did during 2000 years. Or maybe you just mean that part of the Jewish people has to fight, be hurt die and work so that the haredim can sit in shul. In Antwerp where I live, the community once organised a manifestation against anti-semitic acts after a haredi youth was attacked. Almost no haredim participated. And you feel proud when a 100000 haredim manifestate against Israël, because that's what they do! Shame on you
42. Women of the Wall
Danny ,   London England   (06.10.13)
WoW covered their offensive behaviour with the license of religious freedom and convinced a Jerusalem court to accept their false argument. The Satmarers have used the same false reasoning, showing that two can play the same game.
43. i was at protest and YNET is correct
heshy ,   brooklyn ny   (06.11.13)
Ynet figures are correct because there was about 90 to a hundred thousand protesters. There were not only satmar chassidim but other chassidic and yeshiva groups there as well. It was called for 3 pm but it did not start till 530 pm. There were hundreds of busses with signs against drafting yeshiva boys in israel. One sign read we american orthodox jews will outvote politicians who fund israel if yeshiva boys are drafted. Ynet was pretty much accurate on their reporting of the rally.
44. an anti-Hareidi Israel will have problems
Aaron Kuperman ,   Baltimore, MD   (06.11.13)
1. International human rights standards protect religious minorities who refuse to serve in the military on religious grounds. 2. Actively persecuting religious Jews will alienage many of Israel's non-Jewish supporters. Remember we are talking about mass imprisonments, not cutting off subsidies (that real hareidim never accepted to begin with)
45. Nice to see they can MARCH.
roxanne ,   usa   (06.11.13)
46. Disgracefull ...
Mike ,   NZ   (06.11.13)
One one thing to do .... feed them on chicken soup and kinelach (last supper) ... then remove their dreds' and ship them of to Syria !
47. Interesting
Jake ,   Haifa USA   (06.12.13)
I was not aware Israel had the power to draft US Haredi Jews. Exactly who are they protesting to? Conversely, The Mayor of New York does not control the draft in Israel either. As for the draft, what will they do when the US institutes a draft? File a lawsuit no doubt - increasing antisemitism. BTW Fay, Haredi Jews in New York are best known, and rightly so, for molestation, covering up crime, tax fraud, welfare fraud, general run of the mill fraud and hostility to non-Haredi - far worse than antisemites show to them. They are paragons of nothing - and only stand for their perverse selves.
48. there is not only satmar here its all all orthodox
looking ,   israel   (06.12.13)
there is not only satmar here its all all orthodox
49. Members of the ultra-Orthodox
marcelo ROSENGARTEN ,   STOCKTON CALIFORNIA   (06.12.13)
You can’t handle the truth! Son we live in a world that has walls, and those have to be guarded by men with guns. Who’s going to do it you, you Haredim? The IDF have a greater responsibility than you can possibly fathom. You weep, and you curse the IDF. You have that luxury, you have the luxury of not knowing what I know,. And my existence while grotesque and incomprehensible, to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you talk about parties; you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall! We use words like honor, code, loyalty, we use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something, and you use them as a punch line. I have neither the time, or the inclination, to explain myself to a man, who rises and sleep under the blanket of the very freedom that IDF provide, and then questions the manner, in which is provide it. I'd rather you just say 'thank you' and go on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn, what you think you are entitled to.
50. Reply to 22. Ban Haredim from the Kotel
Akiva ,   NYC   (06.12.13)
From what little I know of Satmar, who protested in NYC, Satmar object to using the Kotel. There are many opposing groups among the Haredim, and American Satmarers don't necessarily speak for Israeli Hasidic, Lithuanian or Sephardi Haredim.
51. Reply to number 1. Diaspoa interference
Akiva ,   NYC   (06.12.13)
The same applies to the WoW. American pressure is helping them force themselves on the women of Jerusalem who object to their antics and who accept the Supreme Court ruling requiring WoW to use the third section of the Kotel, known as Robinson's Arch. Native Israelis show little interest in Reform and Conservative Judaism, but are having it forced upon them by overseas interference.
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