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Jerusalem man indicted for conspiring to spy for Iran
Aviel Magnezi
Published: 01.08.13, 13:08
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31. sarah B
aline ,   Israel   (08.01.13)
There is NO death penalty in Israel!
32. The right punishment
Tomy ,   Israel   (08.01.13)
1) Try him in military court and sentence him to death 2) Outlaw Neturei Karta, Satmar and Edta Haredit and declare them terrorist organizations 3) Close all their "Synagogues" institutions, arrest and prosecute all of their supporters 3) Expell all Neturei Karta members to Gaza.
33. treason or pathology ?
michel ,   Ashkelon   (08.01.13)
These people are not traitors but have a serious identity problem that requires an intensif therapeutical work by professionals. Help them to get it/
34. Rachmonos on other prisoners!
Sherlock Holmes ,   London England   (08.01.13)
'radical Haredi sect', 'relatively moderate faction of naturei karta'... More accurately the Satmar Rebbe called Naturei Karta 'misguided outcasts'. They are not 'eccentric'; they are dangerous mental cases. No ecognised Haredi Rov supports Naturei Karta. Even prisoners in Israeli jails don't deserve this neighbour!
35. Democracy is hard to live with at times, of course tyranny
bobk ,   Orlando US   (08.01.13)
is infinitely worse - look at the Arab / Moslem world, parts of black Africa, China, N. Korea, Vietnam, Burma etc and even the 'new' Russia. But treason is treason, so is insanity; when fellow Neturei Karta members question this man's balance of mind then so should we. To all who suggest a one-way ticket to Teheran for the Neturei Karta, please re-read the first line again.
36. And he did it also in name of a "belief"
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.01.13)
37. Traitors
Dan   (08.01.13)
Who cares if Haredim are Jewish? They are not Israelis – they are anti-Israelis who resist doing their duty, attack those who do their duty, demand privileges and refuse to acknowledge others' rights. Israel must change their culture or get rid of them.
38. 1 Sarah B,Treason is not applicable
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (08.01.13)
in this case,this man should be tried as an enemy combatant,he didn't do it for money,just ideology,the neture shikra,satmars,toldot aharon and even elements in the aguda,share 1 believe, a deep hatred for Israel,and do not belong to the Jewish nation,the irony is,that their philosophy is based on a love verse from the song of songs,written by King Solomon,turning a love story into dogma,that the Jews are forbidden by God to return and rebuild the Jewsh state before the coming of the Jewish santa claus, King Solomon was a pagan,who married none Jewish women,and did not obey God's commandments,would the satmars and the aguda serve in the Army of King Solomon ?.King Solomon's wives didn't serve their husband, Glatt.
39. to no. 6 The Torah accepts Deadth Penalty for certain sins
Ari ,   Jerusalem   (08.01.13)
So if some rabbis give opinions on contrary, is just a personal opinion. There are many thing in which certain rabbis twist halacha. Of course Death Penalty is not an easy matter. Even in the times of the Sanhedrin these decisions were not taken lightly, and they tried to avoid it. Nevertheless it is contemplated in the law
40. See? That's where the games of Naturey Karta finally lead to
(08.01.13)
41. to 25. You wont think they would give you all the facts ...
Ari ,   Jerusalem   (08.01.13)
Much of the information is security matter. You are naïve ir what...
42. To 31 there is death penalty in Israel for certain crimes
Ari ,   Jerusalem   (08.01.13)
Treason is one of them
43. Wrong
Sagi   (08.01.13)
You are wrong and Sarah B. is correct. Not only correct but I also agree with her. FYI. It is on the Statute books. Treason punishable by death.
44. Foolish man..
JJ uk/Israel   (08.01.13)
Member of Neturei Karta faction traveled to Berlin in 2011, offered staff at Iranian embassy to provide information about Israel and even expressed willingness 'to murder a Zionist. That says it all. No need to emphasize further. end
45. Israel as a nation
shmulke ,   w coast usa   (08.01.13)
...is the one place in the Mideast that defends freedom of belief, even if that belief is that Israel should not exist. It's only when actions are taken to attempt to undermine or harm the state that it becomes a prosecutable offense. This unbalanced creature should be dealt with appropriately (deportation to Gaza would be apt) but the Chazerei Karta, as despicable as their beliefs are, should be allowed to exist in Israel.
46. The Next Leader of J Street
Seth ,   Washington, DC   (08.01.13)
47. I want a clear and precise statement
Arnold ,   Montreal-Canada   (08.01.13)
by this man as well as a full interview with the leader of the Nutrei Karta movement. Then presuming they express themselves well enough that we all finally know what they are about , they are then given a map of the world and the choice of which country they want to be exported to. As much as they want the Moshiach to arrive so does everyone else. But while waiting shut your mouth and be a giver to the country protecting you .... not a taker.
48. #1, Sarah B want's blood, immediately!
Rich ,   Toronto, Canada   (08.01.13)
She's quick on the gun and YNET approves! Well, from the story in the article, it sound's like this person is mentally insane, in which case, he would not be responsible for his actions. Would you be so quick to kill a retarded person? What does that say about you as a mensch?
49. Jews however bizarre are fair game for the IL State
E. Grumi ,   New Zealand   (08.01.13)
Arab terrorists are mollycoddled and released by the elites. The elites are our problem, not a handful of looney-tunes rabbis.
50. neturei karta
shloime ,   toronto, canada   (08.01.13)
what are the neturei karta doing on israeli soil?! no other sovereign nation would tolerate a sect that openly declares its intent to overthrow the government, and publicly embraces its enemies. now that abu mazzen has reiterated his policy of making judea and samaria "judenrein", israel should deport all fifth columnists, who are disloyal to the state, starting with the neturei karta, and including certain mks, and other supporters of the plo. (b'tselem and peace now?) and as proof that such action is NOT motivated by racism, they can deport these jewish traitors FIRST. loyalty oaths are very primitive, but at some point, those who are so actively opposed to the rest of society should be encouraged to get off the bus.
51. Damn hypocrites ,...
split ,   US   (08.01.13)
Death sentence for a nut case that didn't have an access to secrets, didn't sell nothing and freedom for Pollard responsible for dozens upon dozens of US intel assets in Soviet Block, billions upon billions in monetary damage and exposing his countryman to mortal danger,...
52. Strange
Mark ,   London, UK   (08.01.13)
There seem to be more anti-Zionist jews and haredi who contribute nothing than anywhere else. There are haredi in the UK and whilst they don't put forward a very positive image of jews in general, there is no taint of not working and paying state taxes. I am not aware of them receiving any subsidies that other citizens receive.
53. to 52 (print this)
JJ uk/Israel   (08.01.13)
just google the "burning of the libraries" and books. You will find the same type of Jews destroying very old and .. the beautiful 4th century AD mosaic at Hamat Tiberias in Israel. Photo 2010. From here.
54. 27
Gabriel ,   Leiden, Netherlands   (08.01.13)
I do stand corrected. But do you have any relevant message pertaining to the contents of my post? I guess not. The queen bee attitude doesn't always work everywhere.
55. @51
Jake ,   Haifa Israel   (08.01.13)
Who said he was insane? His neighbor? He was sane enough to travel out of the country, go to an Iranian embassy, set up communications with Iran, to hate Israel and to act on it. That is not the mark of an insane person. He did not think an imaginary tiger was chasing him. He did not hallucinate the Iranian embassy. He tried to escape detection by leaving the country - thus showing he knew his actions were wrong. Legally he is perfectly sane. Calling him insane is a cop out and is only taken because there is no defense. Too bad. No one forces you to live here, he was free to leave, but if you are here, you live by the rules. He is lucky we have no death penalty. BTW, Pollard is US business, do what you like.
56. Arnie from Montreal..you and I know that the
Al   (08.01.13)
moochers no matter what uniform they take on, are schnorrers till the day they leave this earth. The NK along with the other Chevra in Outremont, Darlington and of course Victoria CDN are all one of the same. They may wear different uniforms but when push comes to shove, they wouldn't split a nail for clal Yisroel. They all play the game but the bottom line is that they love the family allowances, the day cares and the subsidized yeshivas and the beis yakovs. That's why they live in a Quebecstan. The goy will piss on their heads, and they'll tell you its raining.
57. BUILD BABY BUILD
DANNY TAWIL ,   ENGLAND   (08.03.13)
BUILD BABY BULD AND KEEP BUILDING HI MY FRIEND IN THE U.S.A.. GOD BLESS YOU AND ALL YOUR FAMILY. FROM DANNY IN ENGLAND ABSOLUTLY KEEP BUILDING AND DONT STOP.
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