Before he split to form Kadima Sharon led a very right wing Likud and Livni was one of his rising stars. He had his stroke and Olmert took Kadima into a centre left direction and when Olmert was forced out Livni continued the centre left path until she got given the boot and she decided to quit the party. Come last elections Shelly offered Livni the number 2 slot on the Labor ticket but Livni didn't want to be second best to anybody so she formed her own party with some defectors from Labours far left. Now she acts as if she belongs in Meretz because she is backing Abbas 100% and undermining Bibi on concessions. If Abbas wants it Abbas should have it if it will stop him walking away from negotiation and even there Livni seems to have no red lines. How did somebody who was from the very right wing in Likud end up as somebody who believes in the Meretz give everything take nothing ideology? Would be interested to know how she would have turned out if Sharon had formed the more right wing Kadima he envisioned and Livni had joined that rather than ending up with Olmert who has ambitions to be the next PM if he can clean up his image by next election ( kadima still love him ).

So called "American Jews" and Tzipi Livni, both are first other things and just then (maybe) Jewish!

To some of us being Jewish is meaningless in our lives. Shove it cause you ain't force your archaic way of life upon us

Abel / Hevel owned all animals of the world Kain had all the land and vegetation of the world/earth Abel/Hevel asked for Kains animal skin coat, his honoured modest clothing. Kayin/Cain retaliated if you want this coat get off my possession all the land on earth. We know the result as Hevel died. Abbas wants all the land 67 and Tel Aviv as well. He has no shortage of land but wants to kick us off what he thinks is his land Yudden-frei etc. He has no money to pay for it. Tsipi please read your Bible/Chumash tonight and perhaps you can allay all those fears and dreams you had while you have inhaled /smoked perhaps weed or some concoction. Find a friend whom has family in Yesha if you can and talk things thru. Find a friend whose sons are members of the IDF and talk to them. This all done you could connect to that little Jewish soul/ neshomela. It needs to be nourished with the concern for your's and our roots Jerusalem and Yesha and its warm real Jewish people whom you are supposed to represent.

Livni and her pathetic new party were soundly rejected by Israeli voters. Livni is one of the worst politicians Israel has ever known. Her cease fire with Hizbullah denied Israel victory in Lebanon. She disgraced Israel at Annapolis. She was trying to give away Jerusalem before she lost the second last election. There is only one good thing Livni has ever done for Israel. She destroyed the horrid Kadima Party. But that was completely unintentional. Livni is a danger and a disgrace. Israelis should demand her immediate dismissal from representing Israel in any capacity.

Jewish values by indefinitely occupying the West Bank, and not suggesting any solution? The occupation needs to end.

She has demonstrated that she has no real understanding of the needs of the Jewish people in our ancestral homeland, the Land of Israel. She fails to understand that the Arabs are intent on creating a weak and frail Israel which will be unable to defend itself on a very small and indefensible narrow strip of land surrounded by enemies. She has no understanding that, as time goes on, the ever-increasing number of Jews of Israel require much more land to expand within and grew into. We desperately need the Shomron and Judea. Two states will do nothing but put a hostile and dependent Arab country on our necks. A state which will be nothing but a headache and problem for us. We will have to feed them, provide jobs for them, give them water and fuel, bail them out when things go bad and anything else you can think of. They will blame us for everything, and threaten us with war if they screw up internally. We don't need her to undermine our real needs.

West Bank is that the West Bank of Seine in France.The area has a real name Judea and Samaria,so you're saying Jews have no right to their ancestral homeland and their holy sites.I think it the only Jewish values.

State of Judea in Judea, Samaria & Gaza (Yesha). Livni can go with Arabs to any Arab state of her choice!

Mrs Livni. as the creator made you, did he put your brain in your head? why can't you see the pit they have dug for us? Modern day Hamans with full Jewish aid? Biological , Chemical , Nuclear , Fundamental Islam , all weapons of mass destruction. Man can control or limit the effect of the first three evil weapons .. The fourth is out of control , with no known antidotes, yet powerful support from the likes of Obama Zawahiri and Khamenei If no cure can be found very soon, the fourth and most virulent WMD will destroy Islam on the way to destroying civilisation as we now know it

You must be biting your lips that there are people like Livni who has a pragmatic approach to peace, unlike you who like the gogomagog idea of death to all of us. Then when Meshiach comes all fascists will get a life to enternaty. Its btw very similar to our enemy who in addition get 72 virgins...

The only reason Livni has never been PM is because she is determined to give up Jerusalem. When Olmert was forced to quit as Kadima leader Livni should have inherited his crown but unfortunately for her she couldn't get a coalition together when she took over and the reason was because The religious parties were saying that they would only join her if she refused to give up Jerusalem. she decided rather than agree not to give up Jerusalem she would prefer to take her chances and hold an election which she then lost. If Labor ditch Shelly and get themselves a respectable leader the leftist voters trust then they will drop Livni next election and go back to Labor. Right now she represents the leftists who have become disgruntled with Labor under Shellys leadership not the majority of the left. Bibi has no love of Livni but needs her to make up the numbers to form a small but workable coalition. I actually think its a shame Kadima couldnt get themselves a proper platform and a proper leader rather than the crook Olmert and opportunist Livni because it would have been good for the country to have 3 mainstream parties maybe made it possible to get rid of some of the single issue hangers on.

"Yisrael Medad put a great comment on his blog recently: 'If Arabs can't make peace among themselves - and they are of the same religion & culture and speak the same language - why should a peace with Jews be even obtainable or even sustainable? Are you rational?'" (Dennis V)

My imbecilic intelligence only allows me to cut and paste the same asinine post about 10 times a day.

Jews have every right to live in the whole Israel, but Israel has no right to take the land from the native Israelites who have lived there for ages. As many studies have proven, Palestinians are mostly descendants of the ancient Jews, who stayed to fight for every inch of the land that God promised to them. You have no means to force them to leave, because nobody ever had, so you better learn to live with your brothers.

Dear Runner, you write with such assurance about "occupation". I thought that an occupation is the fact that one country occupies the territory of another one. You agree with me? Well, when Israel in the six day war "occupied" the so called west Bank, which independent country did it occupy? Embarrassing question isn't it? Well, in fact it was a territory illegally occupied by Jordan since the cease fire with Israel in 1949. And before, what was this territory? It was part of the "Mandate for Palestine". And what was the Mandate for Palestine? It was the decision voted unanimously in 1922, by all the 51 members of the League of Nations to grant to the Jewish people a national home to become a state, on the territory between the Mediterranean Sea and the Jordan River. This decision became International Law and was reaffirmed by Article 80 of the United Nations Charter. You may ask: and the partition plan of Palestine by the UN in November 1947? This was a non-binding proposal by the UNGA (All UNGA proposals are none-binding), anyhow rejected by all the Arab state, so it went off the table. Even Security Council Resolution 242, what became the cornerstone for diplomacy in the Middle-East took into consideration the League's decision. Read articles written by the author of said resolution, Pro. Eugene Rostow. So, again, dear Runner, where is the occupation, and where is at all AN Article of International Law, mentioning Israel, pretending that this country is violating the law? Make a research on Internet to check what I wrote, and give me then an answer to my question: who is occupying what? Thank you in advance.

Let the misanthropic miscreants scream all they want. If all goes well, Israel will likely soon renounce its pretense of legal claims to the West Bank, end its settlement policy and recognize the State of Palestine. We have to wait and see.

...Zippy Arnold? Or even Zippy Abbas. Zippy Ashrawi? Well, I AM getting warmer. Personally if I had to attend any "J-Streetwakers" meeting I would need an olympic delousing and a hot scrub. maybe several. And this person is alleged to be the official defending Israel's position in peace discusstions? Give us a break Mate.

I hold HIM 100% responsible. As usual Bibi speaks from both sides of his mouth. Anything to get enough votes and support to stay in office.

I don't know why some talkbackers hate that lady. She has worked for your country during much time, since as a Mossad's agent. She understands the reality. It is impossible to Israel, a democratic and humanistic State, sending Arab dwellers to Jordan, annexing "Judea and Samaria". As a loyal friend, I dare to repeat it. Palestinian State may exist, but demilitarized and having new borders, that does not endanger Israeli defenses. Out of it, the nightmare will never cease. Sincerely.

in a correlative on u.s oil imperialism,usa major part of the overall world dominance strategy is:first they sell armaments to a regime then they demonize the regime to which they sold the armaments and declare war on it,after the war they station permanent military bases in the country and use the military bases to control the energy resources in the surrounding countries and then they impose the current u.s foreign policy doctrine called full spectrum dominance,the u.s must control military,economic and political developments everywhere

the aggressive capitalists operating in u.s dollars,do not distinguish between good and evil,siphoning profit off from the clash between good and evil,or the suffering of good at the hands of evil,is part and parcel of the capitalist enterprise,taking a stand only occurs if the balance sheet prospers,legal action is immanent,or national security interest-as defined by capitalists-are at stake,how else to explain the present day u.s alliances with terrorists,military junta and the love fest with saudi arabia? and at home they gave the rich a trillion dollar tax break at the expense of the workers,the poor and the lower middle class while north americans are being brainwashed by tv,radio,newspapers and cinema rhetoric to become mindless cult followers of jingoistic militarism,the movers and shakers are making their billions,some of them even give strong clues as to what is really goin on

ever to get some of that Shimon-the-Statesman-the World-Loves- pie, she must abandon all notion of loyalty to her country (that's us, folks) and embrace the fallacy of Arab peace smoke & mirrors AND the Two State "Endlosung" for Israel! Makes one truly want to vomit.

By Livni's logic if Palestinians don't give Israel a 2 state solution then Israel is finished. That's who is negotiating for Israel. Is that the best Israel can do? Meanwhile, Abbas who rejects a Jewish Israel is telling Israel this is their last chance. We should all tell Abbas to take a hike. It's the Palestinians not Israel looking for a state.