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South African protest: Ministers do not visit Israel
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Published: 02.11.13, 08:49
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31. #25 Harri: the arabs refused their own state in 1947
(11.02.13)
I don't know what you mean that the Jews didn't accept the borders of the Jewish state as was voted by the UN in 1947. The Jews accepted the resolution, didn't they? that means that they accepted the borders. The Arabs (calling themselves now "Palestinians") refused the UN resolution which for the first time in their history too granted them an independent state in the holy land - with the whole of the west bank and Jerusalem being an international enclave. Bottom line - the Arabs declined the offer because they didn't want the Jews to have a country of their own.
32. Stop the negotiations and annex the J. Valley
Don't be fools   (11.02.13)
On the same time Israel sits and negotiate with the PA, The Palestinians attack Israel in the world. Stop the negotiations. Annex the Jordan Valley and build a new large city there. Only when the Palestinians will stop the attacks, Israel should negotiate with them.
33. Barking in the global dark of night....
Gideon Reader   (11.02.13)
...as the Fifth World finds it's voice and an audience for it's shameless ignorance.
34. @I am tired of Africans
(11.02.13)
You talk with the highest level of ignorance I have ever read anywhere. You are tired of Africans, so they should be deported. Who are you? Are you the only person in Israel? Do you know how much Israeli companies are getting from Africa? Do you know how many Israeli businesses are operating in Africa? Africa is competing with Iran for influence on the continent. So do not talk from only one angle. Keep your racist view to yourself because if all Africans were to close their borders to Israel, I am sure there would be significant losses that some Israeli firms will attain.
35. @Africans are biggest racists
(11.02.13)
You need some reeducation. You need to go back to school and learn history. Today, you call Africans the biggest racist; just because the West has taught you to link EVERY BAD THING to Africans. Go back to school and read about the history of the pogroms and the Holocaust. Read about how Jews were called "stinking Jews" just two generations ago. TODAY, because we are economically challenged, you are saying we are racist. Many bad things apply to us. I concede that point, but we are NOT racists. We have done NOTHING to Israelis and to Jews.
36. Poor baby
REK ,   USA   (11.02.13)
Can't sleep at night. Of course, all the carnage on her front door in Africa by Muslim fanatics and murderers is trumped by Israeli settlements. SA is becoming the same banana republic and backwater as the rest of the continent.
37. Israel has excelent relations with African countries
Ethiopia, Nigeria   (11.02.13)
Ethiopia, Uganda, Nigeria, Kenya and may other important countries in Africa have extraordinary relations with Israel. Israel helps to build agriculture, transportation and health infrastructures in those countries.
38. Not so long ago this "lady" was nothing more
Vardina   (11.02.13)
than a slave. Now she is enthusiastic in hating Jews. Probably her first initiative as ex-slave. Haim yahafoh kushi oro????
39. @Israel has excelent relations with African countries
Sam ,   Johannesburg   (11.02.13)
THAT IS THE EXACT POINT HERE. Jews have contributed significantly to humanity. Israel is still contributing a lot to the nations of the world. South Africa will suffer and become WORSE than Zimbabwe if its Jewish population emigrates in entirety. So there is NO WAY ANY reasonable government in South Africa will get extreme against Israel or Jews. They will be digging their own graves if they try that. HOWEVER, we must acknowledge that this woman is under the influence of the PA. The Arabs who stood up against Apartheid are coming back to roost. So they have to yield to some of these pressures. All what this woman needs is education about the Arab-Israeli conflict and the Palestinian BLATANT refusal to recognize Israel. That is what makes the difference between Apartheid and the Arab-Israeli war!
40. @31
Sam ,   Johannesburg   (11.02.13)
That is exactly my point here! The Arabs are the aggressors. BUT sometimes I feel that because they lack knowledge of gambling, they fail to recognize their own aggression. They always start the wars and when they lose, the call Israel names. Mahmoud Abass said he would not allow Jews into the future Palestinian state. Should we call his government "An Apartheid Government in Waiting"?
41. she is right
adam adam ,   earth planet   (11.02.13)
israel does no realize the bad situation around it and in final peace is the guaranty of stability
42. 21 I think she belongs to the category of people that
Deb Goldfarb ,   Washington, DC   (11.02.13)
you often call "'progressive' anti-Jewish racists", as part of the Unholy Trinity; the two other categories are classic antii-Semites and the third is a 7th century based Islamists.
43. #37 ethiopia - thank you!
solomon ,   bklyn   (11.02.13)
for bringing reality back into the picture. Israel had helped African countries in the past, until some governments decided to cut relations based on arab promises of money...which never materialized. It is good Israel is again helping, and good that people like you speak up about it.
44. #25 some corrections
solomon ,   bklyn   (11.02.13)
The arabs decided that boundaries would be decided by war (from 1948 onwards), not Israel. Its only when the arabs lost that they changed their tune. You are also forgetting the offers to Arafat at Camp David (which Arafat rejected, to the astonishment of Clinton), and the offer of Olmert to Abbas, which Abbas never answered. Please stick to facts when you post.
45. Ministers of a false gospel
Israel Watchdog ,   Akko, Israel   (11.02.13)
South African ministers better watch out, if they read the Bible they'd know... Genesis 12:3 And Iwill bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee:and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. (The Jews, Israel)!
46. talkbacks: racists calling other people racists
(11.02.13)
47. # 29 Deport all idiots
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (11.02.13)
from the Czech Republic. Now.
48. #45: Right.
Steve   (11.02.13)
And if they don't want to look in the Jewish Bible (the so-called "Old Testament") I will direct them to their own NT. Jesus was a Jew. He reportedly said: "The king will answer and say to them, ‘Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine (my Jewish brothers), even the least of them, you did it to Me.’
49. #25 - Harri
Maurice ,   Montreal   (11.02.13)
Israel did accept the 1947 UN resolution of 2 states, therefore accepted the borders as defined by the resolution. Don't change history! You are either ignorant or a shameless liar!
50. Israel cannot be compared to S. Africa
Steve   (11.02.13)
White Europeans colonized lands such as South Africa to which they had no historic connection, unlike the Jews, Israel. There is no comparison. The international community recognized that Israel is the "Jewish national home." There isn't any disputing history.
51. what's really funny is that
steve from raleigh   (11.02.13)
The ANC has its roots in the Soviet KGB and several senior members of the ANC were KGB trained - including Ronnie Kasrils. He openly admits that part of his training was to participate in raids against Muslims in Zambia during the time of the massacres there when 10's of thousands of them were killed because they were opposed to Communism. That's your noble South African government for you.
52. 18 "Deport these animals [Africans]!" you are a racist.
Kwabena   (11.02.13)
You are behaving like a Nazi. And until my comment gets published or your comment gets edited, I will take you on for this racist slur.
53. #46 You obviously haven't
solomon ,   bklyn   (11.02.13)
bothered to read any of the talkbacks and are just giving a knee-jerk reaction which is not based on facts. Typical.
54. #47
Jarda ,   Czech Republic   (11.02.13)
Jewish population in the Czech Republic really significantly reduced.
55. Mrs NC Dlamini Zuma,Chairperson of African Union Commission
Alan ,   SA   (11.02.13)
within the last month or two addressed a Board of Deputies Function here in Johannesburg. She is a very capable SA lady-the best. She asked the SA Jewish Community to help Africa develop. She .asked SAJews to help save Africa..Altogether there are about 50 000 or so Jews left here. President Monthlanthe similarly made appeals in the past. At the same time Moslem and other ethnic students are allowed to sing "Kill the Jews"on the steps of my Alma Mater Witwatersrand University. Moslems in SA.are doing their best to stir up hatred to Jews by other groups .The joke is that a big % of them are immigrants to SA themselves!.If one walks about SA today ,one sees all costumes reminiscent of the Khyber Pass or Arabian Suks
56. Jarda
Oleg ,   Canada   (11.03.13)
Any country which deports Jews, persecutes them and conducts antisemitic policies is bound to decline. This happened to ancient Rome, Nazi Germany, USSR, Communist Poland, Iraq, Egypt and many others. I hope the leadership of RSA would be wise not to do this as Jewish doctors, businesspeople, engineers, scientists contribute greatly to the well being of that country. Do you know what would happen if companies like De Beers and Old Mutual would take their capitals out of the country? I also hope that leadership of your country would try to attract the Jews to the beautiful Prague. Same as Poland, Germany and Russia are trying to do.
57. Jarda
LION OF JUDAH ,   JUDAH THE LION   (11.03.13)
South African Jews will be WELCOME to Israel. They will not be deported to the gas chambers as your ancestors done. Soon after JEWS leave South Africa., the SA economy will go down the toilet.
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