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Eyal Golan acquaintance suggests racial bias at play with affair's coverage
Itay Blumenthal
Published: 21.11.13, 23:03
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1. Mizrahi does not equal Sepharadic
Marc ,   Las Vegas   (11.22.13)
In regrads to the article by Itay Blumenthal he made a serious mistake. Mizrahi does not equal Sepharadic. Mizrahi's are Jews descendant from the Jews of Iraq, Iran, Yemen, Kurdistand, Afghanistan. Sepharadic jews are descendants of Spanish and Portuguese Jews that fled after the inquisition to Holland, France, North Africa, Greece, the Balkans, Western Turkey and most speak Ladino. Ashkenazis descended some from Sepharadic jews of Iberia and some from Jews from Jews of Khazar descent, and some from Jews who immigrated from th eland of Israel to Europe during Roman times. Not being Ashkenazi does not make some one Sepharadic which is equal to Mizrahi. The journalist and many people make this simplification and it's plain wrong. I would expect an Israeli journalist to know the difference. Marc
2. Bull
D ,   tel aviv   (11.22.13)
Seriously, it has nothing to do with Ashkenazi or Safaradi,,,,its all to do with people acting like complete a holes....
3. Golan
Birdi in disgust. ,   Israel   (11.22.13)
Nice try, wont work for me. Golan is suspected of raping under aged minors. Golan is suspected of using drugs & giving drugs to minors. If found guilty, I hope Golan is never allowed to sing on any stage in Israel. If found guilty, jail will be too good a place for this creep.
4. RACE?
BAB ,   jersualem   (11.22.13)
Is this going to be his defense? Israeli society is at fault. OK, how about Mizrahi singers and tax evasion, Let's just say that it's simply a coincidence that Eyal Golan, Kobi Peretz and Margalit Tzanani seem to be more creative with the law than their colleagues.
5. The excuse of racism the best way to evade responsability !
Frederic   (11.22.13)
and I am a Sephardi !
6. 1. Stop being petty with terminology
S Judah ,   Jerusalem   (11.22.13)
The term Sephardic is generally used to include those Jews from Spain/Portgugal/Bulguria/Turkey/ North Africa/The middle and the far East, etc. The common thread is following the Halacha according to the Rif/Rambam/Beit Yosef/ Chida/Ben Ish Hai/Rav Ovadia and others with a sprinkling of Kabbala. The liturgy is mostly common as well. The overwhelming majority of what are termed Sephardim are in fact Mizrahi. Understand the Rambam was born in Spain but spent most of his life in Egypt, so no pettiness please. Likewise most Ashkenazim are not German which is what the term means. And yes there is racisim and which is why I vote Shas. It is about time other Sephardim come to term with these facts and voted Shas as well instead of trying to paint their skin white and suck up to the Bennett's and Lapid's of this world.
7. #1 Not quite.
Jake   (11.22.13)
"Ashkenazis descended some from Sepharadic jews of Iberia and some from Jews from Jews of Khazar descent, and some from Jews who immigrated from th eland of Israel to Europe during Roman times." No not really. The Ashkenazi Jews are largely descended from Jews that settled in the Rhineland and then migrated eastward as a result of medieval pogroms. Yiddish is the direct descendant of Middle High German. As for the Khazar theory, the most recent comprehensive genetic study of the Ashkenazi Jews completely collapsed the Khazar theory, though it did show a substantial contribution on the maternal line from Mediterranean Europe.
8. If a president is not above rape charges why not Eyal?
Avi   (11.22.13)
Just a miserable attempt to run to the golden horns of tribal strife and hope to start fires. Shame on you.
9. #1
James Duncan ,   Up state, NY   (11.22.13)
FACT,,,,,,,,,,,,,, non of these Jews are related to the ancient Hebrews to say the least Ashkhenazis who are even in the Tanakh itself are as noted non-Semitic peoples,,,,,,,,, Ladino surely you jest, no one has spoken Ladino since Ladino. Man if you keep believing this garbage try to keep it to yourself, it is not only a bunch of crock but makes you look like a fool and I don't even see you. There was never a migration pattern of Hebrews to Europe after the destruction of the second Temple and as for Sephardi flip flopping conversoes, check this GRAMMAR,,,,,,,,,??????? FIN.
10. Was Dudu Topaz Mizrachi? (end)
Doreen ,   tel aviv   (11.22.13)
11. well said Marc...
sammy ,   canterbuty England   (11.22.13)
Indeed, a wide difference between spanish/ladino jews and our bretherens from the "2 rivers".... and those from both sides of the Urals... some have Toledo in their heart, some carry the scars of Babylon and others the harsh sadness of The Pale... but all, we carry Jerusalem in our souls... and the sands of Judea in our feet. for over 3000 years.
12. @6 100% agree even though i'm not religious
dovdevan ,   ashdod,paris   (11.22.13)
it's time for the mizhrahim to revolt because they are discriminated and you are right they have to stop painting there self ridiculous ! you can notice that when you travel in the world mizrahim have succeded very well compared to their position in israel i and y know why
13. Racial Bias? Bobbeh-meises!
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14. If they don't go to jail for singing this so called "Mizrahi
tom ,   tel aviv   (11.22.13)
music" they sure as hell won't go to jail for sleeping with young ones! Besides: it's the presence of the daddy, that makes this (otherwise unspectacular/unoriginal Polanski-twist) rather creepy & un-appetizing...
15. Seriously?
Elad ,   Beit Shemesh   (11.22.13)
Not only does this reporter not know the difference between mizrahim and sephardim but he thinks that Eyal Golan, who is loved by ALL israelis ashkenzaim included, is being discriminated against. I've never seen a mizrahi so well liked in Yisrael before
16. enough with mizrachi pretext
Miron ,   Israel   (11.22.13)
I am sick and tired reading again and again that mizrachi origin people are discriminated.When someone with similar roots is delinquent and commits a crime immediatelly blames the ashkenazi jews. If I am not wrong,Golan is from Marrocan parents who are far from being mizrachi jews.And most of real mizrachi jews are far from being sephardic,as they usually claim. Historians must tell these brave brothers of us the truth once and for ever. after more than 60 years of kibutz galuiot it is insulting to hear the same racial story.Enough is enough!
17. Nr.1
Miron ,   Israel   (11.22.13)
Absolutely right ! Enough mixing Mizrachi and Sephardic these are completely different cultures.
18. No. 7 Jake
Miron ,   Israel   (11.22.13)
You may be wrong . No.1 did not say that all askenazi jews are of sephardic origin,he wrote SOME It is true that most ashkenazi jews come from Reinland,but many of them came from Holland with Spanish and Portuguese origins.During the centuries they learned ydish and have integrated.
19. There is no "race"
haim ,   usa   (11.22.13)
I am opposed to the term in general, but certainly in this context. His ethnic background, certainly, but he is not of a different race.
20. These creeps are called ARSIM in Israel.
Vidal ,   Hamilton   (11.22.13)
21. to 1 and 6
Jennie ,   Israel/US   (11.22.13)
It was good to read both of your posts about the origins and some history of Mizrahi & Ashkenazi Jews...Each and every Jewish Family has their own unique history, very special to them..But the subject point here is Eyal Golan...Who could have immagined, that this charming, talanted man, an icon with so much potential, will bring such shame to his country and to our whole Nation...Racial bias ? No way ! Adani decided to "play " the race card, because unfortunately he (and no one else for that matter), can prove Golan's innocense...Eyal Golan is in need of serious therapy...
22. oh please...
Larry ,   LA (formerly)   (11.22.13)
If you have a problem keeping your zipper up, blaming society makes you just look dumber...
23. Mizrachi, Ashkenzi, purple or green who cares, DID HE DO IT?
Yellow with Disgust   (11.22.13)
If he did, FRY HIS @SS!
24.  i'm fed up to see that anything has change since the 70"s
dovdevan ,   ashdod,paris   (11.22.13)
i notice that every time a mizrahi has a succes storyhe is being humialated and we have many cases from itzhak mordehai to moshe katzav and now eyal golan they are discreted a if they couldn't succeed ! is there a racial problem in this country
25. " rasism" ?? plz, give me a BREAK ! the guy is FILTHY .
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26. heard it all before.....
Philip ,   Afula, Israel   (11.22.13)
"Gee officer Krupky I am depraved on account of I am deprived ". West side story for those that remember.
27. #2 please tell
(11.22.13)
What did they do to the ashkenazi Bar Hanoar manager who admitted raping many (tens? hundreds?) vulnerable youth?
28. He's half Yemenite, half Moroccan
BS   (11.22.13)
His ethic background has nothing to do with it.
29. ZIP a dee do da ZIP a dee ay
Happy vocalist   (11.22.13)
wonderful feeling, wonderful day.
30. # 1 How does that explain his being a rapist?
BUILD BABY BUILD ,   United States   (11.22.13)
Seems that this is nothing but a diversion and a cheap excuse for a crime. Whether or not he is either Mizrahi or Sepharadic isn't the subject, he is a rapist. Jew, or Gentile, rape is rape, underaged children given drugs and raped are still crimes. What difference does the variety of Jew or locale have to do with the price of beans? Are their separate charges for one and differing charges for the other? No. He can sing to the other jail birds but not be left to rape more children.
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