Opinion  Guy Bechor
US security guarantees are worthless
Guy Bechor
Published: 06.03.14, 00:49
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1. Bechor is absolutely correct
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.06.14)
2. "Framework Paper" is toilet paper
ASTRONAUT ,   SC, USA   (03.06.14)
3. Iran. Syria. Ukraine. Israel?
Dan   (03.06.14)
Kerry has made it clear that the USA's overriding priority is not to fight. To this end he has handed Iran a strategic regional role, allowed Assad to keep his weapons and thousands of Syrians to die, and let Russia carve up Ukraine while dozens were killed. The loud American message to Israel is that it can only rely on itself.
4. Kerry's Peace
Ross Gallen ,   Henderson, USA   (03.06.14)
A "peace agreement" is just a worthless scrap of paper. Kerry offers nothing but blood and tears. He is the puppet for Obama. Obama's peace is as worthless as the promises made for Obama care.
5. Just like a violent , frustrated but gutless husbands takes
tom ,   tel aviv   (03.06.14)
it out on his wife/close family members, so does US at the moment: toothless and penniless on the Big intl. arena it turns to the faithful Israel for some needed "action" to validate itself. What a pity, shame and disgrace....! Oh how the Mighty have fallen! - and that's the kind version of events. The other one being that the Imam in Chief is simply realizing his Big Plan, from day 1 at the office....
6. Comparison Not Exact
Zechariah   (03.06.14)
The situations are very different that's clear .The USA has not abandoned South Korea and has Troops in Europe and even a Base in Cuba of all Places .True the Israelis Need Maximize their Milititary Strength being surrounded by many active and less active enemies .The USA knows it needs allies and needs to maintain its Technological Power in areas of Security and that Israelis have Many working hard to Maintain the Jewish States Survival in the Military Sphere.
7. Red Lines and Paper Treaties
max ,   washington dc   (03.06.14)
The only guarantee to any Countries Existence is its own soldiers. To trust others, red lines or paper promises is a gusrantee thst may have an expiration date!
8. security arrangements
njdoc ,   nj   (03.06.14)
you would have to be a suicidal jew to accept any of these proposals. we have the land, we have the guns. that's it!!!!
9. Obama's words are meaningless
C   (03.06.14)
israel must not outsource her national security to any foreign entity. in particular, obama and his people are seamless liars. obama has no intention to use military force to stop iran from acquiring nuclear weapons, contrary to his promises as a candidate for the presidency. the benghazi affair was an utter lie since it has now been reported that the cia had been planning a rebellion in lybia for decades. these plans came to fruition under obama.
10. Worthless paper and lies.
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.06.14)
Bechor is outstanding like usual. History keeps repeating itself. Czechoslovakia was disarmed and sacraficed to the Nazis using worthless paper and lies. Ukraine was disarmed and handed to Putin using worthless paper and lies. Now Obama wants to render Israel defenseless to help Israel's genocidal "Palestinian" foes. Using worthless paper and lies yet again. NO WAY!
11. Correct article
Rachel ,   US   (03.06.14)
12. "US Security Plans Worthless"
Rperitz ,   Bainbridge Island US   (03.06.14)
In what kind of world does the writer live? Consider the following: 1nothing is permanent...states are created and dissolved, as are marriages, human bodies and taxes 2. If American guarantees do not meet the writers standards then will Israel alone be able to withstand even current pressures in and out of the UN. 3. international law, with its flaws, nevertheless prevent many disasters from happening...thus a piece of paper has validity within limits. 4.who betrayed the Ukraine? The US? Russia? Why even use this word.? 5. Nations have national interests. these often clash with those of others. Solutions can be negotiated. The list of realities in this world go on and on...polemics and ignorance solve nothing and can even be dangerous
13. So...there are good, logical, intelligent
Israeli 2   (03.06.14)
Yidden-kops in Israel...like Dr. Bechor.
14. abandoned?
zalman ,   williamsburg US   (03.06.14)
"free the Crimea peninsula from the Russians" and do what? Protect the Nazis? This article was short sighted.
15. Shows something else
Bill Stein ,   USA   (03.06.14)
Kerry and Obama were involved in the tormenting of the overthrow of the Ukranian leader. This irritated Putin who then invaded Crimea to protect thier Navel Base.
16. bechor, you confirm what yaalon said
marv   (03.06.14)
of course US security plans are worthless general allen aside. Yaalon was right and herzog and kerry are dead wrong. The reason why livnni and herzog support kerry's plan is they are afraid, plain and simple.
17. Hit the nail on the head and…...
Brett L ,   JHB RSA   (03.06.14)
NO chance any country or "organisation" is able to guarantee the security of another country. The palastainians know this as the russians did in crimea. As a result, as the author says in this article, Israel is the only country that can and is able to guarantee its own security. After this the Israeli's have every right to stand its ground!! Don't sign ay peace deal until Israel gets what it wants and F*&K the palastinians, americans etc etc!!
18. So why
David ,   On this planet   (03.06.14)
do you have Jewish Israelis pushing the two state solution. This is where the problem is . Handle your own people first before they destroy you
19. #12:Great, according to your world-view: "here today(Israel)
tom ,   tel aviv   (03.06.14)
gone tomorrow"? It's just the liquid state of History?! You may be just right: Yesterday you were "somebody/represented "something", today You're...NOT. I am talking of the US, of course; that's where you live.
20. why look so far?
(03.06.14)
Historically, security guarantees are worthless. They are made by a strong power (like US) to convince a weaker party (like Israel) to surrender critical interests for convenience of the strong power. Instead of Ukraine, let's remember UK's security guarantees to Czechoslovakia or US/UN guarantees to Israel in 1956 (forgotten in '67), in 1967 (forgotten in '70 and '73) or UNSC 1701.
21. Spot-on!
ex-frummie ,   Johannesburg S.A.   (03.06.14)
22. 100% right!
tiki ,   belgium   (03.06.14)
These US leaders (and EU) think that Israel should believe them because of their baby blue eyes and because they say so. They are unwilling to state that whatever the're offering is an old & worn out scenario which they know won't work but that they don't care! They are unwilling to state that their contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on and their 'word even less!
23. Kerry is Israels ENEMY !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (03.06.14)
24. #18. Leftist Jews empower Obama to menace Israel.
Chaim ,   Israel   (03.06.14)
#18. You make a crucial point. The only reason the Obama regime is able to menace Israel is because of Jewish complicity. Leftist Jews empower Obama to menace Israel. The PLO would not even exist today if Peres didn't bring it back to life. Lunatic Jewish champions of the Two State Final Solution, as you note, pose the greatest threat to Israel.
25. As soon as IDF withdraws,Hamas, Al Aksa martyrs br,,Jihadis
Alan ,   SA   (03.06.14)
will launch attacks on the Nato or EU or US piecekeepers..Two or three piecekeepers will be killed .Their families will be shown on US and EU TV at Military Cemeteries. . The piecekeepers will withdraw fast leaving no force to keep the piece.The baddies will then have free reign .They will have a grandstand view of BG TA and the entire coastal plane ...Economically it will be a disaster.They will rocket an airliner and the rest is obvious The Budapest Declaration shows that pieces of paper are honoured more "in the breach than in the observance" Everyone knows this so why am I submitting this post? Dunno!
26. #1 not mine.
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (03.06.14)
27. #24, Hating the Left is your own lunacy.
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.06.14)
In the most successful countries today with capitalistic systems, management of companies want workers to be stock holders, participants in companies' profits. That's leftist, not? You are stuck with Marxist definitions, way behind of what is relevant today. Obama administration's policies vs. Israel have very little to do with American Jews. Rather, they are the outcome of geopolitical policies of this country.
28. Trust US Guarantees?
Len Edelstein ,   Indialantic FL USA   (03.06.14)
Why is no one discussing the UN Resolution 1701 with its Lebanese-border guarantees to Israel; and the EU monitoring promises on the GaZA/Egyptian border? Both "guarantees" to Israel down the memory hole. Not to mention the signed agreement with PA re applying to the UN?
29. #27 Grosly misinformed
Aharon   (03.06.14)
Capitalist systems and free markets are ideologies of the Right, not the Left. The Left is more likely to believe in Socialism and Marxism, that's why so many people from the former Soviet Union have been raising alarm bells at Obama's speeches. I agree the Obama's policies are more a result of geopolitical conditions, however, many of his advisors on Israel and the Middle East are Leftist Jews who are unfortunately naive when it comes to the Israeli-Arab conflict. Obama listens to these people and forms policies around their advice. However, most of these advisors have never lived in Israel and don't understand the history from that perspective as Israelis do. Also, they give way too much legitimacy to the Arab narrative, which can't be substantiated by any facts, only an emotional plea. If you actually look at the facts, no one with a shred of intelligence would support the Arabs or give them any legitimacy.
30. How can I be tzodek and grossly misinformed?
Michael ,   California, USA   (03.07.14)
You present a distorted view and are certainly wrong. Overall, the world is no longer divided into "Right" and "Left" because the majority are Centrist who avoid description. Who are those "Leftist Jews" you are talking about, how many of them are there? And if there are such people, why would Obama listen to them exclusively? I will bet you can't even explain who is a Jew, so like many others you will call "Leftist Jew" anyone with a certain last name or facial feature with whom you don't agree. Anyhow, I am glad we agree on the geopolitical conditions effect, it's better than nothing.
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