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Violences mars Jerusalem Day with Temple Mount clashes
Noam (Dabul) Dvir
Published: 28.05.14, 17:29
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1. Then We Need To Make Jerusalem Day Into Naqba II Day
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (05.28.14)
Arab violence cannot be tolerated here in OUR land; in OUR Jerusalem- on OUR Temple Mount.
2. Sarah B now is the time to state your claim
Nancy   (05.28.14)
As you so clearly pointed out in a previous posting its your right to go and pray on the temple mount. I would suggest you put your money where your mouth is and now would be a good time for you to go. Dont forget to wave to the cameras
3. Time to close it to all Muslims for a week
Eric ,   Tel Aviv & NYC   (05.28.14)
Israel must start to extract a penalty on the Muslims who incite such behavior. For each such "riot", or more accurately planned attack, Israel must stop all Muslim entry to the Temple Mount for 1 week or until tensions calm down - which ever is longer.
4. Today Muslims traditionally trash one of their holiest sites
er der   (05.28.14)
... the Al-Aqsa Mosque, a sure sign of their devotion to peace and tolerance, and their obvious deep respect and dedication to Allah. Yep, each time they riot on the Temple Mount, that's what happens; they ruin rugs, mess up the place and have even lit fires there in the past - in their holiest site in the region. They want it as their capitol. Fat chance. ('Hey, Roger! Leave those kids alone!..')
5. 2
y Allon ,   Adelaide/Israel   (05.28.14)
You certainly are not being clever in posting nonsense against Sarah.She is fully capable of humiliating you to tears " Nancy "girl.
6. time for young pious Muslims to trash their holy shrine;
Ned Ferks ,   wagga, Aus   (05.28.14)
their beloved Al-Aqsa Mosque, in a display of peace, tolerance, dedication and spirituality... Historically, when the rioting on the Temple Mount starts, the rioters (yes those who claim it's one of the holiest places in their faith) mess up the whole inside of their 'beloved' property, sometimes setting alight rugs, etc.
7. #1 Yishai will you be going to Temple Mount today?
Gideon   (05.28.14)
Or are yer chicken?
8. Rule of Law, or Dhimmitude ?
(05.28.14)
When "settlers" allegedly attacked an army base, hurting no one but allegedly knocking over a tent, the extreme Left demanded live fire against the "settlers" and collective punishment, including ethnically cleansing a Jewish village. When someone found spray-painted anti-Arab insults, Ministers and AG stopped everything to concentrate on catching Jewish graffiti artists as a top-priority, and the US State Department expressed its concern. Now a small gang of masked rioters assault innocent civilians with deadly intent, miraculously "only" wounding one officer. The only reaction is collective punishment of the victims, by prohibiting Jews from visiting their holy place. Where are the Leftist calls for live fire? Where are the Leftist calls for ethnic cleansing and collective punishment? Where is the US State Department? Where is the Shabak and IAF drones that so skillfully capture graffiti artists?
9. Anyone that disturbs peace in such a manner
barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (05.28.14)
should be deported. Why are we giving in to these Muslim / Palestinian hooligans? Don't authorities realize that stone throwing causes serious harm ? Let alone scaring off the tourists? If so called Muslims cannot live in peace and coordinate visits to Temple Mount / Al-Awsa Mosque, then we need to crack down harder until they learn a lesson on how to live with other human beings.
10. Israel needs Moshe Feiglin for PM NOW!
A ,   Belgium   (05.28.14)
11. Don't blame the Arabs, blame Israel!
tiki ,   belgium   (05.28.14)
As long as Israeli's will let themselves be pelted by stones and say it's raining, this will go on. Israel must be pro-active and not defensive! That's the only language Arabs understand For sure they will start complaining to their EU friends & UN. Journalists & NGO's will write & photo shop a few pictures, Ashton & Mr. Moon will give a statement how worried they are, the world will scream what a scandal it is, etc.etc.etc. We know the drill. Just do it!
12. MESSAGE TO THE ARAB INVADERS - WE'RE HERE TO STAY!
stude ham   (05.28.14)
13. Peace comes when a person can walk
Erin ,   USA   (05.28.14)
through all the harms of violence and be untouched; this demonstrates the power of G_d. This demonstrates His Love for us, we can't take evil out of the world, but we can walk through and into a safe home. I was wondering about potted cyprus or myrtle trees? Could a line of potted trees be placed between Al Aqsa and where people of Israeli nationality might pass by to go to the Western Wall.The trees could be rolled in as needed to be abarrier to the rocks. I noticed vacationers and tourists make itto the Western Wall safely, so I thought a natural, movable, and peaceful lookingbarrier might help cope. Right now, I am worried about France. It is decaying. Right down into dust, and we have loved ones there, not only that, some of us have spent years building up France into a beautiful place and that is on the verge of destruction. France needs our prayers, they are floundering way to close to nonexistence and if that happens, all of Europe may fall right after. So, let's put our differences aside, keep in mind what we have seen and learned, but pray for the health of the nation France that at this point only HaShem echad can save. It's beyond man's help. It's pretty bad. No words to say. But I love you Israel, and I hope you have a wonderful day! Also, I hear what you have to say, and the heart you are talking about is filled with love, David once wrote 'enlarge my heart' in a plea to Father. I believe He did, I believe David's loving heart got even bigger spiritually speaking, and he loved more and more. What a man! What a brother. We miss him, but as we miss him, let's let Father fill our hearts with that love and see it has the power to move mountains. Keep loving, that's all I'm asking of you, keep loving, you'll see the miracles if you do :) Remember Who our Father is, yes? I love you.
14. Not in my name - no more conquest
An old and true Jew   (05.28.14)
As a traditional Jews who prays, observes many mitzvot and as a Zionist who believes in Israel a safe and secure homeland of my people I make no claims to the Temple Mount. Give me Tel Aviv, Bnai Brak, Beersheba and Haifa. Let them have sovereignty over Beit Lehem, Nablus, and Hebron. We are fated to either share the land in peace or destroy it in a never ending war. The temple mount is not worth to me the precious life of a single Jew.
15. Temple Mount clashes
Hill ,   France   (05.28.14)
How can you hate people so much? Why can't you see how humiliating it is to celebrate Jerusalem day in such a way? It is an incitement to riot a nd this is exactly what you want it to be.
16. Electronic allowed entrance
robert ,   antwerp   (05.28.14)
Anybody wanting to go on the temple mount should register at the police, receive an electronic biometric card with which he can go through an electronically watched door. By the first misdemeanor, the card should be disactivated with the result that the culprit would not be able to step again on the temple mount
17. To: No. 2
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.28.14)
I'm sorry, but I am pretty astute and I saw absolutely nothing topical in your post. Please do not hijack YNet threads by posting ad hominem attacks. They are remarkable puerile efforts, and quite childish besides. Since you have nothing of merit to contribute to the topic, you might want to consider remaining on the sidelines, chica, while those capable of intellectual discourse address the topic at hand.
18. To: No. 14
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.28.14)
No one's doing it in your name. But you are not a Jew -- certainly not a true one. The Temple Mount not ours? Maybe we should give back the Kotel, too? Idiot.
19. A few things
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.28.14)
Israel has bent over backwards in a vain attempt over nearly five decades to accommodate the "Palestinians" in East Jerusalem. We extended Israeli citizenship -- those who accepted enjoy all the rights and privileges of citizenship although not all of the obligations, such as payment of civil taxes -- the single largest tax bite in Israel -- and military service. If we deliberately ignore the double standard, then we have no right to expect the "Palestinians" to behave like citizens. The time has come to batten down the hatches. If you are an Israeli citizen, you are in it all the way -- that goes for those who became eligible (and accepted) citizenship in June 1967 when Jerusalem and its eastern environs were unified, and those who have lived in Israel since the establishment of the modern state. No more featherbedding -- they must pay civil and municipal taxes. If physically eligible, they must perform military service or, if deemed a security risk, some form of national service. No exceptions. These same obligations should be extended to the ultra-Orthodox. They need to shoulder their share of the burden; we have enough bloody Torah scholars as it is. Anyone who does not recognize the legitimacy of the sovereign State of Israel should be given 90 days to find a new home. This should be a blanket requirement -- Arabs (Christian and Moslem), Druze, Bedouin, Circassian, Armenian, foreign nonresidents and illegals (excepting guestworkers) and most especially, the Satmer and Neturei Karta. Enough leeching off the State. The Waqf should be dissolved, and full Israeli hegemony extended over the Temple Mount. The Temple Mount was an abandoned garbage dump until Israel unified Jerusalem in 1967 -- not until then did it become a rallying cry for Arabs. That is not sustainable. Riots -- Arab, Haredi, or anyone else -- must be put down with all deliberate resolve. Lethal force only as a last resort, but non-lethal force should be employed, and swiftly. It's time to take our country back from the terrorists, the lowlife, the lazy and those who are unwilling to share in the burden. Anyone who does not feel a sufficient degree of loyalty to the State of Israel -- and I include the disaffected over-privileged youth of north Tel Aviv and the northern suburbs -- should find another place to live. The only people with a halutz spirit are the settlers. They are -- literally -- in the line of fire every day. They should be rewarded for being on the front lines with a stipend. Similarly, stipends should be made available to those willing to move to Judea and Samaria. They should receive preferential mortgage considerations, and the government should assist them with rent. The time has come to separate the wheat from the chaff.
20. To: No. 15
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.28.14)
How DARE the French celebrate Bastille Day on July 14? Aren't you aware that there are many descendants of titled aristocrats that somehow escaped the guillotine who are offended by such celebrations? Have you no feeling for them? And how about France's glorious participation in all the VE day celebrations? Aren't you a member of the European Union? Don't you see how humiliating it is for Germany -- a fellow member of the European Union -- to endure such a painful replay of their inglorious loss in World War II, and the loss of 30 percent of their SOVEREIGN territory? Oh, the humanity! Okay -- now do you understand what a complete jackass you are? Good. Try not to forget any time soon.
21. To: A at No. 10
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (05.28.14)
He certainly would have my vote.
22. #15 hill
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.29.14)
You can't continue life while always worrying about humiliating someone, especially if the main "humiliation" is their losing all the wars (which they started). And is it written that people who are humiliated have the right to riot; that humiliation is incitement? Only Muslims seem to follow that childish path.
23. #2 nancy 2
solomon ,   bklyn   (05.29.14)
Jews DO have a right to pray on the Temple Mount. They built it. It was taken away. They took it back. Period. The Israel government let the Muslims stay, but there is no reason in the world why it must be exclusive to Muslims. This is just a continuation of their ‘habit’ of taking over Jewish sites and declaring them Muslim. Rachel’s Tomb is a mosque?! Hah!
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