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Kerry, Netanyahu discuss Israel's West Bank land seizure
Yitzhak Benhorin
Published: 03.09.14, 11:08
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1. The 3,000 year Hebrew name of Samaria is not 'West Bank'
BUTSeriously ,   Sydney   (09.03.14)
2. Drop dead Kerry... spend your time stopping Ebola and ISIS
gracie   (09.03.14)
God gave THIS land to the Jews...... And HE doesn't CARE if you don't like it.
3. land
larry ,   Israel   (09.03.14)
Maybe if the US would have taken a stronger stand on Iran's nuclear power, Israel would have felt a lot safer ,,, safe to give up alittle more land.But a undesided US policy on the middle east ! raises fears of all the regions States '! thus bringing us to this situation'!
4. Our Land: We Build
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (09.03.14)
No "seizure", and no apologies.
5. Correction google search
Bob   (09.03.14)
No I just played with the dates again a google search does not prove he was Jewish before the execution. My bad.
6. Israel's land "seizure" of Yehuda and Shomron?
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.03.14)
The ENTIRE Yehuda and Shomron aka as the West Bank belongs to Israel. Kerry has no right taking it away from the Jews and giving it to Arabs without permission from ALL JEWS in the world.
7. Excuse me
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.03.14)
"Land seizure?" How about annexation of territory lost by an aggressor nation that started a war which they did not win? Is Poland guilty of "land seizure" for its annexation of East Prussia and the Polish Corridor? Is Croatia guilty of "land seizure" for its annexation of the Italian province of Istria? Is the United States guilty of "land seizure" for its annexation of 95 percent of the island of Okinawa and its annexation of 400,000 acres which today Is called Ramstein Air Force Base? No? Really? Then Israel's annexation of NONSOVEREIGN territory formerly controlled by the faux "Hashemite Kingdom" isn't annexation, either. Get your ducks in a row, assholes. Sauce for the goose is sauce for the Jordanian gander. Get used to it. It is not going to change -- at least until Poland cedes East Prussia and the Polish Corridor back to Germany. Or until Croatia cedes Istria back to Italy. Or until the United States liquidates Fort Buckner and cedes 95 percent of Okinawa to Japan. Or until the U.S. cedes the huge amount of territory comprising Ramstein Air Force Base to Germany. Or until China restores Tibet. Or until the United Kingdom restores the six counties comprising Northern Ireland to Ireland. Or until the French cede Alsace and Lorraine to Germany. Get my point? Good. That's the general idea. International law applies equitably to all sovereign states. So, unless the countries who acquired territory as described in the foregoing -- guess what? Judea and Samaria belong to Israel. Don't like it? Too, too bad. Cry me a river, why don't you?
8. It is hard to Believe that Israel has to put up with this!!!
R ,   Israel   (09.03.14)
After being attacked with over 3000 missles by Hamas with the support of many PA people who also began a "little intefada" of their own during that time, it became abundantly clear to EVERYONE that giving land to the PA or any Arab group is DIASTER IN THE MAKING! we all know how they will use this land, and it won't be for PEACE! NO WAY! In fact, the only way for ISrael to really protect itself is to build up these area really quickly! I hope our leaders will be strong to resist the pressures of the world for Israel to set itself up for more war and NOT GIVE IN, BUILD THE LAND!
9. #6 Chaim, the genius
Michael ,   Haifa   (09.03.14)
Land does not "belong" to anyone for eternity. The West Bank, aka Judea and Samaria, belonged successively to the Greeks, the Romans, the Ottomans, the British and the Jordanians. Today, it is disputed territory between Israelis and Palestinians and the outcome will not be determined by the "ALL THE JEWS in the world", but rather by the world itself, which ultimately will enforce a settlement to the dispute, whether Chaim approves of it, or not
10. Wording
(09.03.14)
First off This NO such place as east Jerusalem, Jerusalem is Not A Divided City! Second There are NO such people in recorded history as pali whatever!!! So no need for captain ketchup to Waste his time Again!!! Ha Shem Consecrated Land To All twelve tribes of Hebrews not arabs Period end of story!!!
11. Obama's orders to the PM
M. Davis ,   NYC   (09.03.14)
Obama and his administration must stop telling the PM what to do - they don't know whats best for Israel . It's more mportant they find strategies for America . All Obama wants to do is make peace without Israel's best interest . They have proved numerous times that they are not true friends. They are bias and can't be trusted. Israel can build on her land and doesn't need permission.
12. Had the USA been what it was 7-8 years ago, I'd be worried.
(09.03.14)
Since the American People have clearly & loudly proclaimed: "We want Change, Yes we can" I think we just as clearly can tell Kerry/his Boss: F..k off, you're nobody now! Yes We Can. Creating Abu Adolf Mazenstan next door would amount to slow suicide. Just let these fools enjoy each others company, after all they're on the same page....
13. Why in the world is Bibi discussing our land (which
CHUTZPAH of the US   (09.03.14)
includes Tel Aviv, Haifa, all of Jerusalem and the West Bank) with the US anti Semites headed by the Muslim Brotherhood?
14. bibi submits under pressure
hymie   (09.03.14)
check out his war record. He got shot. There is no other mention of medals, special commendations, leadership or anything else that I have been able to learn. Hee served but acts like a coward and his conduct of the gaza war fell shot as he sued for ceasefires before tunnels were destroyed. kerry calls, bibi submits. Erdogan calls, bibi apologizes. Sissi criticizes, bibi says don't upset him. Jordan doesn't like wooden bridge on temple mount, so bibi removes bridge. He is totally gutless and will not change.
15. #9. Judea & Samaria belong to Israel forever.
Chaim ,   Israel   (09.03.14)
#9. The U.N. would have voted Israel out of existence long ago, if it had that kind of power. Judea and Samaria belong to Israel forever. The U.N. can merely pass yet more meaningless Israel bashing resolutions. Which may as well be printed on toilet paper.
16. Can Israel not make unilateral moves?
Ian ,   Newcastle upon Tyne   (09.03.14)
If Abbas doesn't want to negotiate in good faith,that looks very much like the once and for all end of the Oslo Accords.There doesn't seem to be anything to stop Israel simply booting out Abbas and his cronies and divide up Judea and Samaria as it finds appropriate. Abbas and his cronies have stopped being 'peace partners',if ever they were,and turned into dangerous annoyances who CAN be dealt with. THREE CHEERS FOR ISRAEL!!!
17. To: No. 9
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.03.14)
First and foremost -- you neglect to mention (how convenient!) -- that Judea and Samaria have always belonged to the Jews. The Kingdom of Judaea and the Kingdom of Israel were around long before the Greeks, Romans, Ottomans, the British and the Jordanians. In any event, possession being nine-tenths of the law, and Israel currently in possession ... the land belongs to us. And no one is going to "force" a settlement upon Israel, unless they are willing to back it up with force, in which case, Israel will blow up as much of the world as we can, and render whatever is left uninhabitable for the next one hundred thousand years. So -- those are your choices. Judea and Samaria are part of Israel, or there is nothing left of the world as we know it. You choose, sluggo.
18. # 9 Of course land belongs to nations people what else can
BUILD BY BUILD !!!!   (09.03.14)
they claim, air?
19. Kerry is as bad as Hamas !
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.03.14)
20. The dying stops and Kerry the vulture spreads
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (09.04.14)
his sorry wings...
21. What Is This?
Rob Miller ,   USA   (09.04.14)
In Paragraph 1 the writer calls this an 'expropriation of Palestinian land'. Who does he work for, Ma'an? This is supposed to be a straight news story, and there's NOTHING to indicate in any way that this land, part of Gush Etzion is 'Palestinian' in any way. Pretty biased and unworthy stuff.
22. To no. 17.
Bertram ,   London, UK.   (09.04.14)
There you go again, conflating two distinct arguments: 'ownership' of land based on 'history' / 'eternal' rights - and 'ownership' based on current possession. Reminds me of Groucho Marx: these are my principles - and if you don't like them I have some others.
23. To: No. 22
Sarah B ,   U.S.A. / Israel   (09.04.14)
Is that the best you can do? Groucho Marx? I guess you've run out of intellectual arguments. Why am I not surprised? Judea and Samaria belong to Israel. They will NEVER belong to anyone else. There are any number of ways to ensure that. Interestingly enough (not really; I'm being polite), you have chosen to overlook this fact. Why is that? Well, if you're willing to present your hindquarters to the Moslem hordes, that's entirely your business. What you cannot do is drag the Jewish people along with you. But you are hardly Jewish, are you, Bertie? I bet you even curtsey to the queen. Charming. Really.
24. To no. 23.
Betram ,   London, UK.   (09.04.14)
I'll do you the courtesy - not that you deserve it - of dealing with your central point. "Judea and Samaria belong to Israel. They will NEVER belong to anyone else." This is a moot point since J & S have not been annexed. I can only conclude: a) that you mean 'belong' in theory, in the same way that First Peoples might have a claim to the entire US (who incidentally questioned the whole concept of 'owning' land). b) that your statement is little more than a political slogan. The rest of your post is rambling drivel - but you don't need me to tell you that Sarah old bean, do you?
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