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Finalists picked in memorial to Poles who saved Jews in WWII
Associated Press
Published: 07.02.15, 14:38
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1. save the jews
hy   (02.07.15)
bennett wants the jews to save themselves with a strong idf and populace, proud and well trained. Herzog livni and lapid want to totally depend on the united states and have the US take all themajor decisions for israel in life and death, IN 48 initally, in 67 and even in 73, US was at odds with israel. Bibi plays both sides, sometimes, sometimes weak. Vote for bennett and don't waste your time wiht these weakliing and cowards.
2. In 1939, Poland had a population of appx. 35 million,,
A ,   Belgium   (02.07.15)
3,200,000 of those were Jews. 90% of the Polish Jewish population was slaughtered. "Jerusalem has recognized about 6,500 Poles who saved Jews", which is about .0002 of the non-Jewish population. Jewish donors would be better off donating to help hospitals struggling in Israel or to neglected holocaust survivors than building a memorial glorifying Polish anti semitism and compliance with the nazis.
3. #2 - learn to calculate percentages
Justine   (02.08.15)
1. For starters, learn to calculate percentage. 6500 is 0.02 percent of 35 million, not 0.0002. 2. In all honesty, you should also subtract other very large minorities (Germans, Ukrainians, Belorussians, Lithuanians) and children. 3. Neither Yad Vashem nor anybody else claims that the 6500 is "all there is". Those are merely the documented cases that were brought to the attention of Yad Vashem.
4. #2 - ok, 0.0002 wasn't a percentage, my bad
Justine   (02.08.15)
But the other points still hold
5. #4 Call the numbers whatever you want,
A ,   Belgium   (02.08.15)
but Poland does not deserve any sort of memorial celebrating its "kindness" towards its Jewish population, Auschwitz is enough of a reminder of Poland's dark past during WW2. The survivors deserve these donations more than Poland ever will.
6. #5 Curious
Greg ,   Warsaw, Poland   (02.09.15)
Out of pure curiosity: what do Poles have in common with Auschwitz other then the fact that 100000s of them were murdered there?
7. statistics
Peter ,   Lublin, Polska   (02.09.15)
You claim that Poland has dark history during WWII. Of course it does just like all European countries, some Asian countries and some American (both north and south America). That's if we are talking about that historical period. If we take whole history of countries than there is no country in the world without dark card. Occupied by Germans Poland was the only part of Europe where there was death punishment for helping or hiding Jews. Out of about 3 millions of polish victims of WWII about 50 000 were killed for helping Jews (including individual group punishments like killing whole Ulm family for hiding Jews). That's about 1,6% of polish victims representing other than Jewish faith. Polish people make biggest part of people awarded with award for saving Jews about 6500. And yet in your opinion the fact that it's "only" 0,02% of polish population of that time (again polish non-Jews) makes Poland of that time anti-Semitic. What about countries where there was no death penalty fo helping Jews like Belgium, Holland, France? What do you think about them? And to show you how pointless your usage of statistics is let me give you some other statistics (using online available data and Jewish population of Poland size that you estimated to 3 200 000): In only 3 of ghettos created by Germans in Poland ( Warszawa, Łódź, Lwów) worked 4200 jewish policemans called odmani. It's 0,13% of Jewish population. Add members of Judenrats to that. Even if we say that half of them were decent people who haven't hurt anybody that's already more than Poles saving Jews. It's even worse if we add to that kapos from camps (1 kapo per 100 prisoners) and their assistans- vorarbeiters (1 per 10 people forced to work). Statistics put Jews of that time in worse light than Poles.
8. #7 The fact that apart from a few thousand out of
A ,   Belgium   (02.09.15)
many million, the Poles did nothing to stop the slaughter of it's Jewish population, which was the largest in Europe before it was decimated. Poland has a long history of anti-semitism which culminated in the Holocaust.
9. learn history
Peter ,   Lublin, Polska   (02.09.15)
Where are your ignorance and antipolonism coming from? For centuries Poland was safe heaven for European Jews. Tell me how many yeshivas existing in Belgium before WWII were called "Jewish Oxford"? I haven't heard about not even 1. In Poland on other hand rabbi Meir Shapiro in Lublin opened Yeshiva Chachmey Lublin and it was called Jewish Oxford. The building is stil standing on Lubartowska street in Lublin. After war it was used by local medical university. Retribution was paid in mid XX century. And recently Jewish community got it back without paying a penny for that. It was paid twice by Poland. Now there's an almost unused synagogue, there's no rabbi, but biggest part of it is changed to hotel and restaurant. But you will consider mentioning this example of how weird Jewish community in Poland can be as antisemitism so go back to other things. Tell me, how many coins were used in Belgium that were covered by Hebrew letters? In Poland it happened in the beginning of Poland.In Poland Jewish community was almost autonomous how about Belgium. There was no official support for holocaust like in France where police was actively helping Germans. Don't blame Poland if you can't defend Belgium. Poland was first country attacked by Germany less than 3 weeks later we were attacked by Russians. We were only territory with corporal punishment for hiding or helping Jews. You accuse Polish people because Poland has " only" 6500 righteous, how many Belgian were awarded with righteous title? What's more you cannot relate to number of Jews that were part of oppression like ghetto police (4200 in 3 large ghettoes add other from smaller towns). What do you think about that?
10. The facts are with Peter from Lublin
Arie R. ,   Ashkelon, Israel   (04.12.15)
I am afraid that A. Belgium is not well informed. In the darkest times in European history, the Poles in general and in particular the Polish nobility (Polska szlachta) welcomed Jews to Poland.
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