Opinion  Nahum Barnea
Michael Oren's baseless anti-Obama articles
Nahum Barnea
Published: 23.06.15, 00:47
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1. FDR was worse
Zechariah   (06.23.15)
In terms of abandonment the charismatic Franklin D Roosevelt was far worse abandoning the Jews to Genocide .A opportunistic calculator he did not overreach his administration in finding refuge for the Jews even after elected in November 1940 when six million Jews where still alive . In those times European Jews could still make it into the USA through Russia to Hawaii . Pressures on other nations like the Swiss and Swedes and Turkey had potential . Obama mentioned the Shoah in Cairo as is for a secure Jewish state but his Arab spring policy went of the rails into chaos . His ability to include barbarism and chaos into his calculations is limited .
2. If Obama had a normal attitude to Israel,none of this would
Alan ,   SA   (06.23.15)
have occured Is the Muddle East a better place since Obama became POTUS
3. Whom to Believe?
Bill ,   New York, USA   (06.23.15)
Let's see, I could believe Nahum Barnea's claim that Oren's statements are baseless, which itself cites no facts. Or I could believe Oren, who is meticulous in historical analysis as well as noting his own experiences contemporaneously. Wow, that's a close one . . . The undoing of the US, and of Israel, will be the bizarre belief that domestic political opposition is a more important problem than the existence of Islamists with murderous hopes.
4. oren i trust and believe. you on the other hand are a fool
ralph   (06.23.15)
5. Mr know it all never fails
Jeff ,   USA   (06.23.15)
After all , Oren is only the Israeli,ambassador.He doesn't get the inside scoop a reporter like Barnea gets
6. Well Reasoned
Mark ben Josef ,   USA   (06.23.15)
The opinion was well reasoned, and feels right. One paragraph was particularly spot on: "For some reason, the Americans also expected an apology from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Netanyahu refused: If he starts apologizing for every unnecessary comment made by a member of his coalition, he won't have time left to make his own unnecessary comments. "
7. undoubtedly Obama is pro-Muslim
C   (06.23.15)
there have been other presidents besides obama whose foreign policy favoured the muslim world. truman put a total military boycott on israel. nixon was an anti-semite. bush one favoured the arabs and his son was the first president to endorse an arab palestinian state. yet none of these presidents have had an emotional attachment to islam. obama is the exception. there is no doubt that obama's emotional attachment to islam is the result of his heritage and his upbringing. ironically, obama's pro-muslim policies have led to the destruction of the middle east and the rise of the islamic state--which obama claims is not islamic.
8. An enlightening response to Oren's views on the Israeli -
miriam ,   israel   (06.23.15)
9. continued .......
miriam ,   israel   (06.23.15)
relationship. America is first and foremost (sorry) and Israel is a satellite.
10. M. Oren, Bennet, Shaked and...
Adler J   (06.23.15)
miri regev should propose a parliamentary debate to vote against flying the Vatican flag in Jerusalem. Jerusalem is the sovereign capital of Israel. In other countries around the world the Vatican doesnt fly the Vatican flag in church's or monasteries, just in the nunciature apostolic which its a kind of diplomatic offices representation. Here in Jerusalem the Vatican haves no religious power!!! Christians practice isolatry by praying to statues, sculptures, idols, virgens, which they considered deities and saints, what can you expected from them? the Vatican is the same ancient religion of romans and greeks. Israel is a Jewish State and Jerusalem is Jew. Do like to this post! cheers
11. The truth cuts Nahum like a knfie.
Jake   (06.23.15)
In that mosque in Istanbul Obama himself made a point of noting with nostalgia that the sound of the azzan from his youth was "the sweetest sound".
12. self hating jew barnea
marcel   (06.23.15)
a human must have some dignity and self assurance as the country must to survive.Barnea and haaretz writers have none and try to drag down israel. Barnea with his journalist license helps israel' s enemies until the arab comes to cut his throat which he would if he could. Micheal oren, a liberal in the mold of herzog though braver has deflated and destroyed the israei obama groupies from peres, perets, olmert, livni, lapidand herzog. Oren has totally exposed obama as a palestinian moslem in his heart and no repair can fix it. Oren has some guts unlike this weasal and coward barnea. He shed family blood and yet believes that his writings would bring peace sooner.w\rong-look at syria to see what mashaal wants to do to barnea and the jews.
13. barnea-here is the proof
geroge   (06.23.15)
barnea's view of israel is a US satellite dependent on its mercy. \who raised this weakling withoout an oz of self respect. Like haber, this is not a person, but a scared rate hiding under a rock.\only time and disappearance of this element can purify the israeli stock. \\all self respecting jews should be ashamed of barnea.
14. Barnea's idiotic fiction.
Benjamin Greenbaum ,   Halandale USA   (06.23.15)
Delusions of a leftist failure.!!!
15. what kind of coffee obama drinks is legitimate political com
ralph   (06.23.15)
comment.
16. This is expected. Imbecile Barnea is Obama's boot licker.
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (06.23.15)
17. Oren's comment against Hussein Obama
Z. tornek ,   zefat, israel   (06.23.15)
You are flat, dead wrong ! I heard Obama say twice within his first 6 months of being elected president regarding who contributed what to the development of america: "What the Christians, Moslems and Jews contributed to America". Please tell me what the Muslems contributed to the development of America? He said this twice ! The Jews gave so much money as well as guidance to so many presidents there's no room to print it all ! Further, amongst other things, because of this there's even a mogen Dovid on the back of the one dollar bill. ! Please tell me what the Muslims contributed.
18. Nahum Barnea is irrelevent
Ted ,   Tel Aviv   (06.23.15)
I think he has passed his prime. Obama is clearly not much of a friend. Oren seems to be right on the ball.
19. Nahum Barnea worthless anti something
Larry ,   LA (formerly)   (06.23.15)
Can't Nahum Barnea get with it? He is so pro what ever is Left and anti right, anti Bibi, anti everything he just can not see what is true any more. Once he may have been the darling of the Left, but today he seems to be the darling of Obama who has turned very anti-Israel. Can't Ynet let this antique and ancient writer go out to pasture? Nahum Barnea is not relevant for today.
20. Facts vs. Opinion
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (06.23.15)
As Mr. Barnea noted Mr. Oren is a historian of stature. Mr. Barnea is a political hack pretending to be a journalist. Mr. Oren is noted for getting the facts right. Mr. Barnea is noted for his invention of 'facts' and outright lying. Mr. Oren is knowing for meticulously documenting his findings. Mr. Barnea never documents any of his claims. Mr. Oren was present at these meetings and comments on events first hand. Mr. Barnea was present at NONE of the meetings and has no first hand knowledge. So with this track record, whom should we believe? A noted historian that was present or an absent political hack know for inventing facts?
21. Michael Oren's baseless anti-Obama articles
Alan Gersman ,   Reston, USA   (06.23.15)
You are overlooking what Obama has actually done. He has done everything to protect Islam in the USA – (look at Kentucky, Alabama, etc where US solders were killed in the name of Islam). He wants Israel defenseless – that is, back to the 67 borders. Obama says he has Israel’s back, but he has demonstrated he has no one’s back. While he has given Israel more weapons he has also given the Saudis more weapons and has said Iran should be able to have the atomic bomb. While Oren has his opinion on why Obama is what he is – the facts speak for themselves – Obama is no friend of Israel and it is good someone is speaking up!!
22. To all talk backers American haters
sheik rattle & roll ,   United States   (06.23.15)
Obama is the POTUS. He can conduct foreign policy the way he sees fit, I or you can not agree with his policies, however until his term is up deal with it. If Israel doesn't like his policies it can reject American money, American veto's and move on until another president takes office. It is amazing how Israel criticizes Obama left and right, but at the same time is on the phone begging for more money to fund the Iron Dome and lobbying the US to use it's VETO and other options to block the BDS movement. The only real reason Israel hates Obama is because he is black and the wife of the Israeli strategic minister couldn't of said it more openly and most likely quoting her husband.
23. the book written by mr Oren...
Adler J   (06.23.15)
have not arrived yet to Israel libraries, i was searching the book to buy it hmmm, Barnea BS lol
24. #22 - BS
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (06.23.15)
"He can conduct foreign policy the way he sees fit" Actually the US Constitution disagrees with that statement. He cannot conduct foreign policy as he sees fit. Congress is a separate and equal branch and the Senate has a lot to say about foreign policies. Try again when actually have a fact
25. 22 Obama unfortunately is POTUS, but not emperor
C   (06.23.15)
obama's dictatorial method of governing proves that the american political system is severely broken. obama's decisions are detrimental to the entire middle east as well as the united states. it is well known that obama has been rejecting advice from all of his own people. israel has been a loyal and steady ally to the united states. this has been acknowledged by other presidents and by the awards handed out to israel's top military commanders. obama has throw israel under the bus, along with egypt and other sunni states. obama's war has rendered lybia a failed state, filled with jihadists. a us ambassador was murdered in lybia as a result.
26. How does Nachum know?
Jake ,   Jerusalem   (06.23.15)
Nahum Barnea seems to know that Oren doesn't know anything but he does not seem to have anything to the contrary but his mumbled messed up slanted opinion. Oren worked and was privy to what goes on. Can we say the same for Nahum Barnea? Really, isn't it time for him to retire?
27. #22, sure. Obama hates America.
Steve Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (06.24.15)
28. Re #22 shake rattle & roll's comments:
miriam ,   israel   (06.24.15)
You state and question the fact that we request monetary support for our Iron Dome project from our good old Uncle Sam while questioning Obama's non-support of Israel. In spite of all, Israel still is strongly connected to the U.S., as it has been these many years, and has been privileged to rcv financial support to maintain its existence. Believe you are "barking up the wrong tree" (as the saying goes) when you state : " The only reason Israel hates Obama is because he is black". This couldn't be further from the truth. As President of the USA, he has much to contend with, and there just might be a clash between our Prime Minister Netanyahu and him.
29. Orens claims are 100% true
Norm ,   Haifa Israel   (06.24.15)
It was absolutely obvious. Everything I saw in the press and on TV about Obama's attitude to Israel and the prime minister is testament to the truth of Orens book
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