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To those opposing the Nation-State Law
Alexander J. Apfel
Published: 14.08.18, 23:57
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1. Jewish state
Yaniv ,   Sydney Australia   (08.15.18)
There are countries that define themselves as Muslim states.
So why all the fuss about having a Jewish state?
Why is it ok for other nations to define themselves as they wish but somehow Israel is criticised for doing it.
2. Is the miracle of Israel because
MadDad ,   Johannesburg   (08.15.18)
It is a Jewish state in which democracy is possible or because it is a democratic state in which Jews and others can vote?
Looking at Israel’s neighborhood it is clear that the miracle of Israel as the only democratic state in the region is because it is THE JEWISH STATE
3. The mindset described by the author, is the very same one
(08.15.18)
that has brought Europe on the verge of extinction.
In the case of Sweden, with 100% certainty.
Tens of years of brainwashing (albeit with noble aspirations) has removed almost all the sound, human traces of group-loyalty.
Tribe is everything, family is everything.
They cannot be replaced by some empty, "rigueur du jour" ideology or political creed.
That realization is dawning on people all over, especially eastern Europe.
4. If we don't make our bed, we won't sleep in it, not for long
(08.15.18)
5. Winds of change are beginning to blow all over the confused,
(08.15.18)
Western civilization.
Realization that we have all been bamboozled (often with good intentions) by the seductively "progressive", liberal and oh-so-humane ideas is dawning upon the good folks in France, Germany, Poland, Hungary, England...and Israel!
Islam is slowly, painstakingly slowly, being seen for what it really is, while still retaining the moniker of "religion" (which it is NOT)
It's a vile ideology, that must be stamped out completely.
This law is but a tiny step toward genuine claim on our Land of Israel and hopefully more patriotic decrees will follow soon....
6. Bertram the wimp and Nazi Corbyn are feeding off each other
Steve Benassi ,   Minneapolis USA   (08.15.18)
7. DNA proves Bedouin, Palestinians are natives, White "Jews"
(08.15.18)
... are not, but are Khazar converts to Judiasm, with no DNA from Levant.
8. Human
Muhannad ,   Amman   (08.15.18)
This is a big PS!
9. It takes a Week of ynet lying before they tell the truth
(08.15.18)
Why does this happen with every major issue. First they rile everyone up with fake news. Than they eventually tell the truth after numerous articles inciting against Jews and reality? The week of fake news on this subject has caused Israel and Jews untold harm, you are part of he problem. How do you sleep at night. At least I can appreciate you allow me to speak my mind in most cases and I thank you for that. Freedom of speech is a primary factor to advancement and understanding between differing groups.
10. N. identity should reflect all citizens,not just one segment
Shela Ramon ,   Tel Aviv   (08.15.18)
In America, the National identity is American, not Protestant, not Catholic, not Mormon, not Jewish, not Muslim,etc

It is true that the N. Law doesn't target Arabs as individuals. But it is also true Nazi laws did not target Jews as individuals not Jews as a whole.

Finally, we have to be honest. 99% of Israeli Arabs predated Israeli Jews in this land. We are only recent comers.

11. Circuitous and circular reasoning
Jacob Edelman ,   NYC   (08.15.18)
This is a typical fallacious reasoning that seems OK in some quarters in Tel Aviv and ... NYC but is not rational.
12. It's not what you say, it's how you say it
Vered, Israel   (08.15.18)
Netanyahu knew the wording would cause a needless uproar, which in my opinion, he could use to out-Jew Bayit Yehudi. The Druze, our loyal minority who are drafted, and have a higher IDF service percentage than do Jews, marched with signs that said, "Jewish, Democratic and Equal". They want it recognized as a Jewish country. The problem is it says Jews shall "only" have the right of self-determination. Why not spell out exactly what that means, and since it's bound to be misunderstood or misinterpreted, say outright that it won't impede upon the personal rights of any minority? Why not explain everything, and introduce that law in that way?
13. thank to any alive one
monzer   (08.15.18)
only the dead can not listen can not think can not say
14. disingenuous rubbish
gawain ,   israel   (08.15.18)
15. THOSE SILLY LIBERAL JEWS
LARRY LISS ,   24 YRS US ARMY VET   (08.15.18)
WHO HAVE THE DILUSION TO WAVE A FLAG OF THERE SWORN ENEMY WHO WOULD GAS THEM IF MUSLAMS EVER WON A WAR NEED A WEEK SLEEPOVER AT BERGEN BELSON
16. right of return
C   (08.15.18)
the right of return to sovereign israel belongs exclusively to the jewish people.
only jews had sovereignty in eretz israel three thousand years ago.
only jews had established kingdoms and jewish temples.
only jews had jewish prophets and jewish synagogues within the
land of israel.
only in the land of israel were the laws of moses the laws of the land.
israel belongs to the jewish people.
she does not belong to any imperial invaders or colonisers.
other peoples who live within israel have civil and political rights.
however, none have the right to establish their own separate
nation within israel.
17. One state of all its nationalities
(08.15.18)
One state of all its nationalities, is a code word for one Arab state with Islam as the state religion in all the holy land, with a jewish minority.
18. its not the nationality law what concerns but...
tomer ,   jerusalem   (08.15.18)
a) the thinking behind the law ( and the comments by supporters as seen for
example in ynet)

b) The way it was conceived and passed ( Basic laws should not be possible to pass by a simple majority in Knesset. The treshold should be higher. Otherwise
it will lead to dangerous "political games" .

19. Erdo-Putin's way
N ,   N   (08.15.18)
Exclude a large group a little bit more and you further their opposition. Only when there's massive suppression the opposition is reduced. But that needs the level of viciousness of Erdogan and Putin. Does Netanyahu want to be like them, does Israel want to follow him into these waters?
20. Nation-State Law is a beautiful thing!
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.15.18)
The Nation-State Law is a beautiful thing! It is an act of Jewish self respect, and such acts are far too rare. It does not discriminate against anyone, as even its critics, with any wisdom, admit. Hopefully, it is a sign of a coming patriotic revolution, in Israel, which will transform our Homeland into the strong, gutsy, self respecting Jewish state we were meant to be.
21. Love it or leave it.
BBB   (08.15.18)
Easy fix
Don't agree with Israel's laws?
LEAVE!! Plenty of non Jewish nations to choose from but, ONLY ONE Israel !!!
22. # 16 C Israel Gods Country!
BBB   (08.15.18)
Deuteronomy 14:2
'For you are a holy people to YHWH your God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth.'
Can't argue with that.
VIVA ISRAEL!!!
23. #12 Vered.
BBB   (08.15.18)
What's the problem?
Christian also support Israel and many also volunteered to fight with the IDF.
Loyalty to Israel should be primary and not up for grabs.
If the law isn't clear ask that it be made more so as it is, it's not that difficult to grasp.
24. #10 Shela BULL SHYT! IDIOT!!!!
BBB   (08.15.18)
Jews have lived in Israel over 4,000 years.
The Arab pals weren't invented until 1967.
Nazi's exterminated 6,000,000 Jews.
Are you nuts or just another ill informed Muslim??
25. The Natonality law is a mistake
DOV ,   USA   (08.15.18)
Don’t alienate your fellow non-Jewish Israeli citizen to the point of no return. Apfel can spin it all he likes but it is an evil law that is totally unnecessary. Without Jews there is no Israel, so we don't need it. Israel’s strength is enhanced by its diversity. My attitude does not feed the anti-Semites but elevates Israel above all others. Israel is legitimate, and a Nationality bill is just a way of showing weakness and doubt in the strength of Israel. But if people like Apfel and BIBITRUMP and most of the talkback people have this NATIONALISTIC ideal than isolate and alienate yourselves.
26. Israelis remember next election who was on the enemies side
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27. That's right. No threat to minorities.
Brad ,   USA   (08.17.18)
The whiners don't like it because it's an affirmation of the existence of Israel, and that Israel is a Jewish state. It's similar to those who hate the idea of constructing a wall on the U.S. Southern border. The hate America, they hate Americans, and they want free stuff.
28. UNLIMITED Jewish building througout Judea/Samaria the answer
Chaim ,   Israel   (08.17.18)
Declarations are fine, but action is what really counts. UNLIMITED Jewish building throughout Judea and Samaria is the way to claim our land now and forever.
29. Why this idiotic law was introduced now.
Stan ,   Israel   (08.18.18)
Those who proposed this law did so for personal reasons. In order to get reelected to the Knesset they have to be high enough in their party's list. So they are basically reminding party members to vote for them at the primaries.

30. This idiotic law is unnecessary
Stan ,   Israel   (08.18.18)
The flag and the anthem - nobody wants to change them.LAW UNNECESSARY.

Promote building for Jews in the Galilee - Mapai did this for decades. Nazareth Elite, Carmiel and dozens of new settlements all over the Galilee. LAW UNNECESSARY. The right-wing are hypocrites. If it is so important to them (and it is important) then why haven't they been doing it for the past 40 years? Let me guess - Ariel is 25 minutes from TA.

Arabic is no longer an official language. Arabic will have "special" status????? Whatever that means. We were told that this will have no detrimental affects, but last week the Speaker of the Knesset refused to accept a letter from an Arab Knesset member - because it was written in Arabic. IDIOTIC LAW
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