B"H For all those proposing Jews stay without IDF ... this is an important question. Do the Jews east of Olmert's fence have a deterrent capability to retrieve those kidnapped? It is only the IDF that has the power? What is the political coupling, in terms of one action affecting the other? Would a separate entity undermine overall deterence? Becasue if only the IDF has the power to deal with the situation, if the IDF is ordered behind a fence, it leaves the region without deterrence. How would Jews living there deal with the situation? This is a very important test and balancing act. Depending on Arab prisoner releases does not seem like the right answer because those prisoners are generally there for intentions of muder against Jews. So how would Jews live there in peace with this sort of situation occuring on a regular basis? How precious is this life, and who is responsible for it? How precious is the Holy Land? These are difficult and worthwhile tests to pass with flying colors!

Knock them off one by one until they relent. Hesitation demonstrates weakness and invites more kidnappings. Shut the power off to Gaza. Start IAF strikes on the houses of Hamas officials. Let them reap what they have sown.

Get these Arab bandits OUT OF ISRAEL!!! They don't deserve to live in a civilized society. Let them loose in the Saudi Arabian desert or the Sinai.

You spent million of dollars to build that fence. Did it protrct you ?

Beware Palestinians, because when our string bursts... allah yirahmu, just remember what happened when you burst it 58 years ago, you're still crying about it.

therefore, it is entirely just, moral, and legal for Palestinians to kidnap them. END THE OCCUPATION!

FREE ELLEN PRESCOTT FROM PALESTINIEN BRAINWASHING "END"

Israel ,weakened by the Bush ,Olmert Final Solution Road Map for Israel. We here in Israel buried two wonderful young Jewish men today, not much more than boys but Jews who loved their country and were willing to make the supreme sacrifice for it. Both were bright intelligent boys with a great future and they left behind heart broken families who will never really get over the pain they feel today. But these two boys had one thing in common with nearly every Israeli, they wanted to live in peace with their Arab neighbors, but discovered that their Arab neighbors have no intentions of ever giving up their desire to kill Jews just because they are Jews, for they do the Devil’s bidding. We have a Prime Minister who likes to say pretty words to tickle the ears of the people, but at the same time he ties the hands of the IDF in order too please his task master. We have a Defense Minister appointed by our sweet talking Prime Minister who has absolutely no experience for the job, and that became very evident over the past 48 hours. We have a Chief of Staff who was in charge of the IAF and has no idea how to run the ground operations of the IDF that also became evident over the past 48 hours. For if the PM, Defense Minister, and the Chief of Staff had known what they are doing they would have immediately launched a ground attack pinning down these kidnappers. Now they have had enough time to even ship our soldier out of Gaza to Egypt or Syria. Another failure to place on these three men is the tunnel these terrorist dug was over 250 meters right under the IDF post, yet today we have no intelligence in Gaza, because of the Gaza Disengagement, but had they had the right surveillance in place that tunnel would have never been finished before it was discovered and those two young Jews would be alive today, and we would not be looking for the one these Islamic murderers kidnapped. Right now IDF tanks are massing on the Gaza border, and once again our Defense minister who has no idea what he is doing is reluctant to give the order to advance. Giving the Hamas Terrorist all the time they need to move the Kidnapped soldier far away and to get ready for the IDF assault should Peretz ever gain the courage to give the order. And the Prime Minister untie the hands of the IDF, but not until the terrorist disappear back behind their women and children. But have no fear we will blow up a bunch of empty buildings as usual. One thing is certain the message that has been sent to the Hamas Terrorist is the IDF has lost its will to fight, and they can now get away with almost any aggression. This is certainly not the IDF we here in Israel has grown to respect. This is the same IDF that was demoralized by Ariel Sharon when he forced them to drag Jews from there homes in Gaza, telling everyone that it would bring peace. Now Sharon’s crony Olmert wants to give the Hamas terrorist an even larger part of the land God promise His people. Hamas offered to give information on the whereabouts of the kidnapped IDF soldier if Israel would release all the women and 18 year old prisoners being held by Israel. They did not say they would release him just give information. Most if not all the 18 year old Arab terrorist were planning to be suicide bombers. Okay so I sound bitter, but the truth is I am more mad than bitter. You see I like many others here know that it is Bush who holds Olmert back and who calls the shots. We haven’t had a real leader in the Prime Ministers office since Menachem Begin and I don’t see one anywhere on the horizon. Jerry G.

Of course the wall/barrier is good(even in Gaza). It took the terros months to dig it.Then they could only use it once.They killed 2 and kidnapped 1. Before barriers/walls the Terros just used to walk into Israel and blow up 7-30 people at a time.AND wound hundreds How many suicide bombings have come from Gaza?Not that many. So you not too wise, Mr Wise Man.

What about all the illegal palestinians in Israel? I guess we have fair game to put them on planes and release them without parachutes, by your standard.

cutting electricity off in Gaza will not bring the palestinians down on their knee......Israel did every thing to vanish these people and it always failed......i dont think anything else is left in Israel's hand.......this state really needs to stop its military arrogance and adopt peace and coexistence methods

Kidnapping is just and moral? Haha! Good one. I'm guessing that either you're a sick person that needs a refresher course in law, or you're just a sick person. Whatever it may be, keep up the good propaganda, maybe Haniyeh will hire you. Oh wait, I heard there's a problem over there with unemployment.

Settlers are theives of land, they live on others's lands. Just like USA and UK troops are on other's lands. Just like Israel is on other's lands. Not only that, buth UK, USA, and Israeli troops treat others like scum, they see others' life cheap and worthless. They all deserve what happens to them. I feel sad for the troops families, but they got themselves into this. God help all of us against the injustice that engolfs this world!

# 1 your dogs have been unleashed for the past 58 years havent they ? # 8 , and you mean to tell me that you have been partying for the past 58 years ?

""therefore, it is entirely just, moral, and legal for Palestinians to kidnap them. END THE OCCUPATION! "" Ellen, didnt I teach you not to lie?Com'on now, you know youre lying again with such claims as above! While ownership of the land and the legality of Jewish settlements are sometimes disputed, there is no international law that prohibits Israel from building settlements. Those who maintain that the settlements are illegal rely on Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention Relative to the Protection of Civilian Persons in Time of War, August 12, 1949, which states: Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory to the territory of the occupying power or to that of any other country…are prohibited… and in the sixth paragraph: The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies. They interpret this to be applicable to Israel’s settlement of the West Bank and Gaza, understanding Israel to have become a “belligerent occupant” of this territory through entry by its armed forces. Those who argue that the settlements are legal point out that the Geneva Convention does not apply to the West Bank or Gaza, for, under its Article 2, the Convention pertains only to “cases of…occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party” by another such party. The West Bank and Gaza were never the territory of a High Contracting Party; the occupation after 1948 by Jordan and Egypt was illegal and neither country ever had lawful or recognized sovereignty. Ellen I do hope you feel a bit stupid now!

IF the Israeli regime made the earth shake in Gaza and under the terror feet in the PA towns, none of this would be happening. Instead, Israel's timid politicos keep 'threatening' and doing nada, zippo, and zilch.

Arabs are the illegal occupiers and should leave. Arabs back to Arabia!

the palestinians only became residents by a 1948 UN fiat agreeing to feed and clothe them for free. they never lived in the Holy Land. they came from all over the middle east after 1870, when the jews started to be productive. the arabs are leeches striving to kill the people who give them sustanence. So turn off the power, plunge them into the blackness that they have propelled the world into since 1930, and tell them to grow up and build a society or suffer the consequences of their own malevealence. try reading the accounts of the holy land by the finnish explorers of 1860 and that of mark twain in 1870. the arabs had destroyed the land, savaged it, and left. Only wandering scofflaws traversed it. And these robbers and thieves tell the world now that it is their land. This data is available for free on the internet at the finnish national library and mark twain can be downloaded from many sources. the arabs never lived there. they invaded, destroyed and left. they are the theives of the land

Don't worry, Ellen wakes up stupid, spends her day stupid, and goes to sleep stupid, then starts all over again.

It is not just, moral and legal for Palestinians to kidnap innocent civilians. You are one dumb ass broad!

I say it explicitly : Israel is the greatest terrorist State... Obviously, palestinian resistance uses terrorist methods but it's in retaliation to the permanent Israeli State terrorism. Al-Quds soon freed...