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Hamas: US working to topple our gov't
Ali Waked
Published: 14.10.06, 15:41
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1. both should go!
jerome ,   basalt, co   (10.14.06)
HamASS and Fatah both are terror organizations, the only difference is AbbASS talks out of two sides of his mouth just like little gay evil Arafat did! No money should go to them all they most likey will do is keep for their own personal fortune. Islamic culture at it's best.
2. hamas cant be a governmenT lt ls a terror ceLL
(10.14.06)
God hatES hamas
3. 42Million for Fatah
M. Hartley ,   Atlanta, US   (10.14.06)
I suggest that Hamas get one of its better-heeled friends to match the funds. They don't have Ahmadinejad on speed-dial?
4. terrorlsts must be topPLLED by UsA
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5. No US aid to Pals.
magrudis ,   Houston, TX   (10.14.06)
If they need money they should get it from Yesser Arafat's widow. The US needs to get out of the habit of arming the same idiots that we or our allies will wind up fighting later on, i.e. Saddam Hessein, Mujahedden, etc...
6. No any action plan for the biased reporting of BBC?
KMR ,   Middle East   (10.14.06)
7. Magrudis.. #5..
Lynne   (10.14.06)
I agree with you on the fact that the US should stop it's hypocrisy.. they supported Taliban to kick out the Soviet Union.. and who paid the price then and now?? the Afaghani innocenty people.. again they supported Saddam on his invasion to Kuwait.. who paid the price?? the US was able to establish military bases all over the Gulf region while the Iraqis had to suffer twice.. once out of the siege and the second time out of a merciless war... the habit you should get rid of is your double standard mentalities.. as for the US aid to Palestinians I think that when the US stops spending its money on weapons to Israel the Palestinians will not need your aid .. the US gives $15,139,178 per day to the Israeli government and military and $232,290 per day to Palestinian NGO's....
8. to 7 - a clarification about US money
crunching numbers ,   USA   (10.14.06)
As in other talkbacks, you like to throw out numbers without giving any context. Firstly, unlike the Palestinians whose money is barely monitored once it is given to political leaders (Suha Arafat, anyone?) Israel is required to spend a large percentage of the US donations on US-manufactured goods. Secondly, although do Palestinians receive less per capita from the US that do Israelis, perhaps it is because it is natural for nations to invest more money (and, yes, the joint nature of military and research cooperation does make it an investment) in nations with which it has a more developed relationship than merely pouring in aid. You yourself stated that the US invests in the Israeli government and military and compared it to money given to Palestinian NGOs. Yet, it is the nature of projects in each of these type of organizations around the world that NGOs, particularly for humanitarian purposes, receive less funding than civilian or military research projects. Perhaps if the Palestinians took a more entrepreneurial approach to their territories (say developing the agricultural infrastructure they were gifted with in Gaza instead of destroying it out of sheer malice, for example), then they would receive more aid. Thirdly, another possible reason that Palestinians don't receive as much money from the US is because they receive so much money from other nations in the international community (including Israel). In fact, the Palestinians receive more money per capita from the international community than any other group on earth. So, if anyone doesn't have a right to cry about how much money they're getting, it's the Palestinians.
9. Hamas
Brod ,   USA   (10.14.06)
Abbas should have dismissed them months ago for being a malfunctioned and non-performing government.
10. They call heading refugee camps government?
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11. #7 You are confused.
magrudis ,   Houston, TX   (10.14.06)
Is it your habit to fabricate history? You failed to follow my line of reasoning and rewrote history in the process. We didn't support the Taliban, we supported the Mujahedden. The Taliban was formed after the Soviets withdrew. Mujahedden was not our ally we just opposed the USSR. We didn't support Saddam's invasion of Kuwait, we supported his war with Iran. Iraq was not our ally, we just opposed Iran. Now, pay attention...Here is my point. Fatah is not our ally, we just oppose Hamas. We need to stop picking sides in conflicts that have nothing to do with us, not stop supporting our allies. You say the "US gives $15,139,178 per day to the Israeli government and military and $232,290 per day to Palestinian NGO's". I didn't know that. I say that's $232,290 too much to the Palistinians and $232,290 too little to the Israelies. Again, there should be NO aid from the United States to the Pals.
12. #9.. "crunching numbers"..!!
Lynne   (10.14.06)
I'm not surprised you hate numbers.. since those ugly numbers reveal the truth.. first of all what international aid are the Palestinians recieving?? did you not know that since the Palestinians have voted Hamas they've been punished?? as for developing "agricultural infastructure" then this is another joke.. what agriculture??.. 1- Gaza is basically a desert.. 2-"initial reports estimate that 50 greenhouses were demolished and 15 others damaged... approximately 150 hectares of olive trees, grapes and almonds groves were uprooted.".. and still you dare talk about agriculture in Gaza.. let alone the fact that Gaza is economically suffocating because Israelis have withdrawn just to turn it into a prison.. so give me a break...
13. Lynne (7,12) yet more overgeneralization in your narrative
crunching numbers ,   USA   (10.14.06)
I don't hate numbers. I merely think that they should be viewed in context, and not selectively. For example, regarding numbers, the funds to the PA have been frozen, not the funds to Palestinians. Despite the 'freeze' on funds to Palestinians, the Palestinians still received 330 million euros by Sept. of 2006, just as one example. This is because EU resources can go through the Temporary International Mechanism for Palestinians or through UN organizations, which were established to provide ways for the funds to go around PA channels and get to Palestinians. By the way, this is not counting all the aid given in grants to organizations such as UNRWA (not present in Israel), which provide aid without actually counting as financial aid. Want to talk more numbers, Lynne? Prior to the intifada, 22 percent of Palestinians worked in Israel. The numbers are down now, perhaps indicating that peace would have been a better financial option for Palestinians. However, despite the intifada, almost 10 percent of Palestinians still work in Israel. Completely cut off? I think not. Regarding your laughably ignorant comments on Gaza agriculture. Gaza is a desert? Somehow, when the Jewish settlers were in Gaza, they built productive hothouses worth millions of dollars in agricultural infrastructure. Following Disengagement, these hothouses were left completely intact, in an publically announced attempt to help the Palestinians by providing them a way to overcome 'the desert' that you claim Gaza has no way out of (yet which Jewish settlers in every single settlement in Gaza proved could be overcome). What happened to the million dollars worth of agricultural infrastructure, Lynne? It was torn down and burned, for no discernible reason other than rabid, malicious, frenzied hatred. Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face. If this is what happens to Israeli investments when they are gifted to Palestinians, you must understand Israeli (and international) reluctance for continued investment there.
14. lynne#7&12 you lose
jerome ,   basalt, co   (10.15.06)
crunching #'s and magrudis win! they are correct and you are wrong
15. #12 lynn
v. n.y. ,   usa   (10.15.06)
lynn, israel was a desert as well in 1948. not only that, but it was full of swamps and malaria. did you know that? yes, that is the truth. i was there! but, look what the jews and israelis did from that desert!!!! look at our "desert" now. is it a desert? or a little north america which is beautiful, progressive, democratic, built, economically and financially sound! a great life, tourism, etc... and education in the top of the world institutions, universities, huge technological and medical advances and research, high tech everywhere, leading inventors and researchers ,etc..etc...etc... go see for yourself. AND THEN GO AND COMPARE OUR DESERT TO THE GAZA DESERT!!!!!!! AND DO YOU HOW AND WHY WE BUILT A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY OUT OF OUR DESERT? because while the palis were consumed with unfounded rage for a fictional homeland in our land israel, while they kept busy hating and waring against us, while they educated generations of their children to committ jihad and intifada, we on the other hand, were very busy building the land of milk and honey, educating generations to progress and study and be tops in every walk of life and every profession. we walked out of gaza years ago and left wonderful green houses which they demolished in anger. they did it not us! the usa and israel gave the palis millions of dollars to better their economy. but, unfortunately, their hate, religion, state of mind and corrupt leaders and governments kept the palis from achieving everything they could have using this money. oh, this money went to guns and katyushas instead of food and education. take your head out of the sand lady. do not write if you have no idea what you are talking about here.
16. They destroyed themselves
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"Arab Attitudes Toward the Refugees The UN discussions on refugees had begun in ... 1948, before Israel had completed its military victory; ...the Arabs still believed they could win the war and allow the refugees to return triumphant. ..The Arabs demanded that the United Nations assert the “right” of the Palestinians to return to their homes, and were unwilling to accept anything less until after their defeat had become obvious. The Arabs then reinterpreted Resolution 194 as granting the refugees the absolute right of repatriation and have demanded that Israel accept this interpretation ever since. One reason for maintaining this position was the conviction that the refugees could ultimately bring about Israel's destruction, "It is well-known and understood that the Arabs, in demanding the return of the refugees to Palestine, mean their return as masters ... and not as slaves. With a greater clarity, they mean the liquidation of the State of Israel." Egyptian Foreign Minister Muhammad Salah al-Din: (Al-Misri, October 11, 1949). After the 1948 war, Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip and its more than 200,000 inhabitants, but refused to allow the Palestinians into Egypt or permit them to move elsewhere. Although demographic figures indicated ample room for settlement existed in Syria, Damascus refused to consider accepting any refugees, except those who might refuse repatriation. Syria also declined to resettle 85,000 refugees in 1952-54, though it had been offered international funds to pay for the project. Iraq was also expected to accept a large number of refugees, but proved unwilling. Lebanon insisted it had no room for the Palestinians. In 1950, the UN tried to resettle 150,000 refugees from Gaza in Libya, but was rebuffed by Egypt. Jordan was the only Arab country to welcome the Palestinians and grant them citizenship (to this day Jordan is the only Arab country where Palestinians as a group can become citizens). King Abdullah considered the Palestinian Arabs and Jordanians one people. By 1950 he annexed the West Bank and forbade the use of the term Palestine in official documents. In 1952, the UNWRA set up a fund of $200 million to provide homes and jobs for the refugees, but it went untouched. The plight of the refugees remained unchanged after the Suez War. In fact, even the rhetoric stayed the same. [i.e., keep arabs refugees to destroy Israel] In 1957, the Refugee Conference at Homs, Syria, passed a resolution stating: Any discussion aimed at a solution of the Palestine problem which will not be based on ensuring the refugees' right to annihilate Israel will be regarded as a desecration of the Arab people and an act of treason (Beirut al Massa, July 15, 1957). The treatment of the refugees in the decade following their displacement was best summed up by a former UNRWA official, Ralph Galloway, in August 1958: “The Arab States do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront to the United Nations and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die.” They preferred to keep the Palestinians as symbols of Israeli “oppression.” by: Mitchell Bard http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/refugees.html
17. Lynn, this is "ugly truth". Go back a little further.
Truth ,   USA   (10.15.06)
"Arab Attitudes Toward the Refugees The UN discussions on refugees had begun in ... 1948, before Israel had completed its military victory; ...the Arabs still believed they could win the war and allow the refugees to return triumphant. ..The Arabs demanded that the United Nations assert the “right” of the Palestinians to return to their homes, and were unwilling to accept anything less until after their defeat had become obvious. The Arabs then reinterpreted Resolution 194 as granting the refugees the absolute right of repatriation and have demanded that Israel accept this interpretation ever since. One reason for maintaining this position was the conviction that the refugees could ultimately bring about Israel's destruction, "It is well-known and understood that the Arabs, in demanding the return of the refugees to Palestine, mean their return as masters ... and not as slaves. With a greater clarity, they mean the liquidation of the State of Israel." Egyptian Foreign Minister Muhammad Salah al-Din: (Al-Misri, October 11, 1949). After the 1948 war, Egypt controlled the Gaza Strip and its more than 200,000 inhabitants, but refused to allow the Palestinians into Egypt or permit them to move elsewhere. Although demographic figures indicated ample room for settlement existed in Syria, Damascus refused to consider accepting any refugees, except those who might refuse repatriation. Syria also declined to resettle 85,000 refugees in 1952-54, though it had been offered international funds to pay for the project. Iraq was also expected to accept a large number of refugees, but proved unwilling. Lebanon insisted it had no room for the Palestinians. In 1950, the UN tried to resettle 150,000 refugees from Gaza in Libya, but was rebuffed by Egypt. Jordan was the only Arab country to welcome the Palestinians and grant them citizenship (to this day Jordan is the only Arab country where Palestinians as a group can become citizens). King Abdullah considered the Palestinian Arabs and Jordanians one people. By 1950 he annexed the West Bank and forbade the use of the term Palestine in official documents. In 1952, the UNWRA set up a fund of $200 million to provide homes and jobs for the refugees, but it went untouched. The plight of the refugees remained unchanged after the Suez War. In fact, even the rhetoric stayed the same. [i.e., keep arabs refugees to destroy Israel] In 1957, the Refugee Conference at Homs, Syria, passed a resolution stating: Any discussion aimed at a solution of the Palestine problem which will not be based on ensuring the refugees' right to annihilate Israel will be regarded as a desecration of the Arab people and an act of treason (Beirut al Massa, July 15, 1957). The treatment of the refugees in the decade following their displacement was best summed up by a former UNRWA official, Ralph Galloway, in August 1958: “The Arab States do not want to solve the refugee problem. They want to keep it as an open sore, as an affront to the United Nations and as a weapon against Israel. Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die.” They preferred to keep the Palestinians as symbols of Israeli “oppression.” by: Mitchell Bard http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/refugees.html
18. US working to topple Hamas? Naw, you don't say.
John ,   USA   (10.15.06)
Needless to say the US would gleefully like to see the end of Hamas, but we would have accepted them as the legitimate reps of the PA if they would recognize Israel. Since they insist on the total capitulation of Israel, then they are unacceptable to the US.
19. When are they going to work on shipping all of them to
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.15.06)
Mars. It doesn't matter who is in power in Gaza or the West Bank---they are all terrorists, or supporting terrorists.
20. Lynne is a college idiot trained by one of
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (10.15.06)
our wonderful American Universities. She probably has a huggably soft Cindy Sheehan doll to sleep with at night. If she really had a clue, she would of known that the Palestinians used to wander all of Israels beaches, and cities, before the jerk offs decided to strap on bombs and blow up Jews. It wasn't Apartheid then Lynne. Those same Palestinians were hitting on all the European women that I hung out with. They had plenty of freedom before they decided to strap bombs on and climb onto buses full of civilians.They created their own prison by supporting terrorism and supporting everyone that blew themselves up for Allah. Keep taking those classes at the University Lynne. They will have you praying to Mecca in your next semester. Hug a Muslim---they'll have your liberal butt covered up and muzzled in a week!
21. #17.. Truth..
Lynne   (10.15.06)
""Arab leaders don't give a damn whether the refugees live or die.” " the fact that Arab leaders are refusing to give Palestinian refugees citizenships is not because they want them to suffer but first of all.. they belong to Palestine.. does it make sense that Israelis decide to establish a state.. kick out Palestinians.. and then expect Arab countries to save Israel by taking those refugees off it's shoulders?? I believe strongly in a peaceful resolution to this but if Israel had decided to kick out Palestinians from their homes then those refugees are the responsibility of Israel.. you want Israel to start a crime and we finish it off?? Palestinians are Arabs yes, but they are Palestinians.. they are not Lebanese or Syrian or Jordanian.. Israel had brought settlers from all over the world to Palestine while throwing out the Palestinians and yet you want Arabs to thank Israel and support it's occupation.. the UN resolution 194 very clearly states that Israel should allow the refugees to return or give compensations for those who do not wish to return.. so the Arabs have not "interpreted" this.. this is actually what the resolution states.. in Taba talks 2001 Palestinians and Israelis reached an agreement regarding the return of refugees but again nothing happened.. whenever Palestinians and Israelis reach an agreement provocations start from both sides.. violence errupts and talks end up fruitless.. Israelis are doing to Palestinians what the Romans have done to them centuries ago.. if Jews claim to have suffered they should be more sensitive than anyone else regarding such matters..
22. #s13, 15.. cunching numbers& v.n.y...
Lynne   (10.15.06)
on an annual, per capita basis, Israelis consume 340 cubic meters of water.. compared to 82 cubic meters consumed by Palestinians ie.more than four times as much...(that was according to statistics in 1999) let alone the fact that the water Palestinians get is contaminated water.. so how are they to water plants if they do not have sufficient drinking water??? what about the Israeli destruction of Palestinian lands?? what about the Palestinians who are unable to get to their lands which were if not demolished,cut into bits and pieces due to the Israeli appartheid wall?? this is an article from PNN "Sunday, 24 September 2006 Governor of the southern Gaza Strip’s Khan Younis, Dr. Osama Farra, told PNN Sunday that the total direct agricultural losses suffered due to recent incursions are estimated at approximately four million dollars.... ....Israeli forces are eradicating fruit-bearing trees and others, and destroying the infrastructure including the agricultural sector, the water wells, irrigation systems, ponds and water harvesting. He added that losses have been countless since the beginning of the month of July 2006, with direct material losses amounting to 40 percent of the total losses incurred by the agricultural sector compared with the rest of the sectors. Israeli forces uprooted 5,500 olive and citrus trees, 800 palm trees, 300 dunams of vegetables, 30 dunams of agricultural greenhouses, and damaged 800 dunams irrigation systems..." I think this answers you regarding Gaza's agriculture.. you are boasting of beautiful Israel.. if I deny the fact that Israelis' territories are a lot more beautiful than the Palistinians' I would be denying reality.. which I do not wish either one of us would do..though I have never been to either one but I have seen pictures and yes, I think Israel had flourished.. but again I find myself obliged to ask you why is that?? you will go on and on again that Palestinians are using aid money in weaponary while Israel is using this money to flourish but this is not true.. if Palestinians are recieving half as much as Israel and wanted to invest in weaponary they would have owned now more developed arms than the missles, rifles and handmade bombs.. how many F16s and bulldozers does Israel own?? another thing.. if their houses are demolished whenever an armed group attacks Israel how are they to build anything larger than a house?? and what about foriegn investments?? do you think that a sane person would invest in Gaza were Israel strikes whenever it feels like it?? while in Israel many countries are willing to invest because Israelis do not face a threat worse thana missle limitd in distance and damage.. and then.. tourism.. trade.. and industries are all under Israeli control.. Palestinians cannot breath before asking permission from Israelis.. I don't believe any of those issues will be resolved before reaching a political solution which would result in a stable ME..
23. #1Magrudis.."enemy of my enemy is my friend"
Lynne   (10.15.06)
a very moral slogan it is which you adopt!! the US did support Saddam on his invasion of Kuwait.. they convinced him that he had the right to invade Kuawait since he was their ally then.. when he did the US jumped to Kuwait's side and strted "defending" Kuwait by establishing military bases in the Gulf... aFter this war the ally became an enemy.. I know you supported him against Iran .. you also provided the chemical weapons he used in 1987 against the Kurds on the Iran-Iraq borders.. whisc in 2003 you have carried out a war against Iraq under the cover of those chemical weapons which YOU have provided!! the US always has surprises right under it's sleeve.. my dear many of the Mujahedin then are the Taliban today.. the same people you have sponsored you are fighting now.. this is what you get from hepocrisy.. no offense but these are facts.. but guess what??.. I couldn't agree more with you.. if you keep your noses within your business we might end up having some peace.. but unfortunately US governments enjoy sticking their noses into everything.. if Israel is your ally you are welcome to provide them with the aid you please but do not work on provoking people who are NOT your allies against each other..
24. USA public?
MArk ,   Canada   (10.15.06)
"God Hates Hamas" - I'm sure that was an American saying that......Hamas were democratically elected by the people to represent them.......The time for American thesuper power has passed, and the World will not respond in kind to all that you have committed.
25. #22 lynne
v. n.y. ,   usa   (10.16.06)
i agree with your analysis. but not on certain points mentioned. israel never just goes into gaza and bombs or flattens buildings unnecessarily. these operations target palestinian infrastructure used by terrorists to bomb israel and to plan suicide missions. it is a shame that some of the palestinian population has to pay for the terroris element inside gaza. but, they support it! they give terrorists shelter. they educate their children and future generations to become terrorists and jihadists. then again, give me one iota of evidence that palestinian water is contaminated. israelis and palestinians get their water from the same source. israelis would love to see a prosperous, not a murderous gaza. they would love to see peace instead of katyoushas raining fire on their land on a daily basis. we left gaza a very long time ago, but still, could not live in peace with pur neighbors. they don't want peace. they want our land. period. is it more inhumane the way they are treated by israel than the suffering and fear and terror they cause inside israel on a daily basis? if they didn't support terroris acts on our soil, then we would have left them in peace to grow and prosper. instead we give them handouts.
26. #25.. v.n.y..
Lynne   (10.16.06)
first of all I believe we should agree on who a terrorist is.. since the word terrorist is now used to justify terrorism itself.. " in order to fight terrorism we should cause terrorism".. doesn't make sense to me.. when someone kills one of your family members and you respond by killing all his family then this leaves you a terrorist and not him (of course I am not referring to you in person)... when Palestinians kidnapped an Israeli SOLDIER Israel responded by shelling Gaza, demolishing homes,destroying the Palestinian infrastructure, kidnapping about 40 members from the Palestinian legislative council.. you feel very fine justifying all this but you are unable to understand why Palestinians are fighting you??? was destroying the power plant that had taken years to build by European aid also part of fighting terrorism??? and still you wish for a prosperous Gaza??? what prosperous Gaza is it that would come out of this?? nobody is teaching Palestinian children to hate Israel but Israel itself.. believe me a child would not believe what anyone teaches him until he sees the proof in his own eyes.. their children do not need any books to learn to hate you.. hearing Israeli planes raid his village is more than enough let alone those who have lost family members or those who have come out from under the rubble of their houses which were bulldozed on their heads... please.. quit this endless "they teach their children hatered".. hatered is not something one learns.. hatered is a reaction to certain circumstances.. as for they wanting your land.. then this is laughable.. you are implying that "Israelis were living in this land.. Palestinians started coming from all over the world to settle and they have killed you and kicked you out.. and now Israelis are refugees while Palestinians want their land".. amazing!! I know that now you would want to start reciting to me how there is nothing called Palestinians and you lived in this land a couple of centuries ago...etc.. I have memorised this so save yourself the time and effort..
27. v. n.y.. contaminated water..
Lynne   (10.16.06)
please read this report regarding contaminated water in Gaza.. "This conclusion is supported by a recent World Bank report.... If the salinity of Gaza's aquifer continues to rise, eventually its water will be undrinkable. Salinity levels of Gaza groundwater range from 650-3,600 ppm. The U.S. standard for drinking water is 500 ppm, and water over 1,000 ppm is considered saline. Sea water has a salt concentration of 35,000 ppm. A maximum physiologically tolerable level of salinity in drinking water cannot be identified; sodium intake in water must be considered as a component of overall dietary intake. Ten grams per day is the maximum recommended salt intake for adults who are healthy, well-nourished, and not predisposed to hypertension or other salt-sensitive disorders. This level is also based on the presumption that the individual has access to sufficient fresh water to flush excess sodium: at best, human kidneys can concentrate urine to 6 grams of sodium per liter of water. Sodium intake in excess of this level must be flushed in order to keep plasma sodium levels normal. It is recommended that people with hypertension or cardiovascular disorders (both of which are common in Gaza) should not exceed 20 ppm sodium in their drinking water. Anything above that level is considered a major salt component of their diet. Some experts think that high salt concentrations are already producing adverse health effects: "Gaza physicians are convinced that salty water is responsible for the high incidence of kidney and liver complaints among Gaza residents." Salinity has also been linked to hypernatremia, thought to be responsible for a large percentage of "crib deaths" and early brain damage. In recent years, nitrate contamination of Gaza's drinking water has increased rapidly: in 1987, 84 percent of Gaza's drinking water wells were considered suitable for drinking in terms of nitrate levels; by 1994, not a single safe well remained. Elevated nitrate levels are also suspected of contributing to infant mortality by causing acute anemia or "blue baby disease." Severe cases can result in anoxia (oxygen deprivation) and death. Nitrates have also been linked to cancer and to increased incidence of spontaneous abortion, both in humans and in animals. Gaza Palestinians are exposed to high fluoride concentrations in their groundwater and also in the fish and the tea that are staple foods. When consumed in large amounts, fluoride is toxic and contributes to ulcers, kidney failure, soft-tissue calcification, and skeletal and dental fluorosis. The effects in Gaza of groundwater chemical pollution from fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides are hard to establish, because data on concentrations and health impacts are not available. However, studies in the West Bank show that absorption through the skin or ingestion of such chemicals can damage the nervous system. Similar products and practices are used in Gaza, so it follows that similar impacts may be present there. While aquifer concentrations are probably not high enough to produce extreme results, we should not rule out serious health effects because of sustained lowlevel exposures. The most prevalent and serious health problem in Gaza is infectious disease caused by waterborne bacteria, viruses, and parasites. These diseases largely result from poor personal hygiene and inadequate sewage disposal, which are, in turn, exacerbated by insufficient water for washing and waste removal.98 Moreover, open sewers are common in urban areas. Thus in November 1994, heavy rains caused sewage to mix with freshwater supplies, producing an outbreak of cholera in Gaza City, with fifty cases and one death in a week."
28. #23 AhmadLynnejad
magrudis ,   Houston, TX   (10.17.06)
What is your slogan? Feed Anti-USA spins to all who will listen until the uneducated herds become incapable of discerning fact from fiction. Where do you get your information? Al-Jazeera? Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and his shaved monkey, Hugo Chavez? Your statements regarding the United States’ complicity in Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait is a complete and utter fabrication. I suppose you are one of those who would assert that the CIA was behind 9/11 too. And I thought I had heard all the anti-American conspiracy theories. Congratulations on your latest work of fiction. I have noticed that you do not mention your location. After reading your posts, I have come to believe that you are a Western-schooled Iranian operative paid by the mullahs to spread disinformation. I guess you will need to write under a new name now that your cover is blown.
29. #27 lynne
v. n.y. ,   usa   (10.17.06)
regarding the definition of terrorists or terrorism, do not spley hairs here and do not wage a semantic war. yes, not all gazans and palestinians are terrorists. however, they mingle with, support them, elect them for parliament knowing their agenda against israel. and yes, they do teach their children to hate....from birth!!! did you ever see the classroom curriculum in the gaza schools? did you ever read a palestinian school book on history and literature. go check it out! you'll be shocked. did you never see the pictures on the net showing young jihadists as young as infants wearing jihad uniforms and holding a shot gun in their arms. do you know that they are recruiting children as young as 5 years for the jihadist youth group? did you know that they have celebrations the night before they send their kids to bomb themselves in the name of allah and emancipation from the "occupation"? did you know that iran after its war with iraq sent 10,000 children into the mine fields left by iraqi soldiers so that they can "clean up" those fields. they tied them together with rope and send the children to bomb their bodies so that all mines could be disabled??? and that was with government approval. did you see the movie "obsession" i recommend it highly! i am not here to recite all that they do and hence the israeli response to their actions. i am here to tell you that the "palestinians" before the intifada had a much better life standard, water, economics, food distribution, no hunger, medical care, a university and hospital clinics that israel built for them. and then we left gaza in 2000. look what happened! they chose terror and mayhem. they were riled up by gangs of thugs life arafar and haniyeh who constantly stole their aid money and lewt them live in squalor while these heads of gov't lead splendid lives with lots of usa and arab cash. but, they kept it for themselves. go see how suha arafat lives in luxury in paris!!!!! all the palestinian aid money in her bank accounts in paris and geneva. i ask, how can mashaal, arafat, haniyeh become so rich???? they have no job per se. they own no companies, etc.... i suggest you research their coffers. they stole $$$$from their brothers, the palis. moreover, the world palestine and palestinian was not even mentioned pre 1967. all of a sudden, when israel defeated the 7 arab armies which attacked it and terriroties were won and annexed to israel, all of a sudden the word palestine surfaced. palestinians were never palestinians. they were arabs who lived in transjordan (west bank) and egypt (gaza). these two countries owned these two areas. when the israeli army annexed them by winning the 1967 war, both jordan and egypt refused to offer these arabs that were under their regimes a homeland and citizenship in their countries. basically, they kicked them out and told them that they were on their own. no wonder. both egypt and jordan knew they will be causing trouble for their regimes. as a result, the arab nations found a new slogan. 'PALESTINE FOR PALESTINIANS", calling these two annexed territories palestine and encouraging these arabs to protest, committ terror acts, etc...against israel in the name of "occupation". read your history books before you recite your knowledge here on ynet. from what i read in your various e-mails to me, you have no clue about events past or present in israel or the middle east. then again, it's easy to sit with your coffee in the usa and judge others and moralize them. why don't you come and see for yourself...first hand experience....what is going on on a daily basis over here. i think theorizing makes you a fool.
30. #28..magrudis... what can I say!!
AmadLynnejad!! ,   former Lynne   (10.17.06)
I should give you credit on this innovation.."AhmadLynnejad "..!! first of all.. I am surprised that you are unable to accept anything that doesn't suit your beliefs.. your world rotates round the US and yourself.. I don't think you have the right to question who I might be.. if you have a problem with my opinions and beliefs then I think you should keep your argument within my opinions and not try to divert things so that we end up insulting each other.. there are many here whom I ignore because they do nothing but spill out their empty hatered.. if I said something you do not agree with then prove me wrong.. I don't mind.. go look for the problem in your media which had made you and many in the US unable to digest anything that does not suit you.. "anti-american" .. is this a new phrase that you have developed just like anti-semitic.. anti- Jewish??? I am not anti-anything or pro-anyone.. take a look at your previous posts.. you have divided humanity into enemies and allies according to your racial mentality.. you believe that no aid should go to Palestinians because for you they do not surpass being flocks of sheep.. you have topped it up by trying to search who I might be ..where I might be from.. where I might have studied.. you have even managed to come up with your own sick assumptions.. what's worse is that you think you're so smart.. if you're so interested in knowing where I am from you could simply ask me.. but no... people like you would not bother themselves by asking anyone anything you would rather build assumptions based on your own hunches.. anyway don't worry I am niether Iranian nor American... I will not give you the satisfaction of knowing where I am from ..
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