Forgot to mentiomn numerous other groups that rightfully deserve states but receive no UN attention in their legitimate quest for self-determination. Why stop at Kurdistan, the UN should pass resolutions calling for the immediate formation of: 1.An independent Tibet and a full withdrawal of all Chinese settlements, military, and influences 2.An independent Basque state in northern Spain where they form the majority and legitimately deserve self-determination 3.An independent Cyprus, not the divided up one that prevents freedom of movement and people from reaching their ancestral homelands currently in place 4.An independent Darfur with the local dialects of that new state having equal weight with Arabic. 5.Self determination for every republic in Russia trying to break away and form independent entities. 6.Independent Cherokee, Alogonquin, Shoshone, Seminole, Huron, and countless other Native American states in territory illegaly occupied by American and Canadian settlers. Why only Israel? Why no attention to the just demands of other "oppressed" peoples who have no single homeland where they can speak their language proudly, practice their customs free of state intereference?

A corrupt & useless debating society mainly composed of crappy third-world dictatorships & cowardly Eurabians. The UN is a failure in every sense. It's become just a do-nothing bureaucracy with highly paid leeches. So, who expects anything else?

a ridiculous proposal .there must be one state for two people jew and arab on ecqual security basis with right of return for jews and arabs .it must occur over one hundred years and be protected by impenetrable shield . a new religion will emerge bringing the best of the religions together and hate will be history.

It sickens me to have my own Israel-denying messages censored, but seeing that this talkback is being taken over by Palestine/Palestinian deniars/haters and pro-"transfer" fanatics and "Jordan is Palestine" liars - I conclude that the apparent majority of Israelis today reject peace! The Palestinians through 60 years of tormenting occupation have come to accept a 2-state solution with Palestine on 22% of its historic territory - but Israel REJECTS and REJECTS! GOD help this region! The final war is coming....

The United Nothing...Israel should not give up anything...it is their land and they have the right to defend theirselves and keep their land. This land for peace thing is one big lie.

Israel belongs to the Jewish people. It was given to Abraham (a Jew) and his offspring by the One and only God. God the Father of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

I wouldn't worry about "the world" being against you. Start to worry, when they're all with you. It means you no longer have anything that everybody else wants. Nobody ever hates poor countries; only successful ones. The really big problem starts, when you, yourself, start to make excuses for being successful.

it will dismantle israel, let us kill all the christians in darfur, bring saddam back,name bin laden the next secretary general; name ahmadinejad head of the human rights commission, and ask kim il jung to rewrite the UN mandate. what a wonderful place

Israel always Ignores UN resulation : The rest of world seen Israel agerasion except US and US will sooner or Latter will join the Rest of the world or US will be Isolated and become little Island and that time Israel who have little freind Around the world do the math . Reality Check , world

are issues that should have UN resolution.

To some Native Americans your comment might sound like a threat. There are places they wouldn't want back for all the beads in the world :-) I do, however, agree with you. When you're attacked and you beat your attacker, it shouldn't be up to some third party to decide when, where and how much territory to give back that you "won" fair and square. We took it, we settled it, we developed it, we'll keep it until we damn' well feel like giving it back, if ever..

I suspect that our "moderate arab allies" have more than just a passing interest in the survival of Israel. It keeps the lunatic Palis and their asshat friends occupied. Let Israel disappear, and guess, who's next?

What is the UN going to say, IF israel goes back to its 67 borders and syria and the pales attack israel with even more viger bc they thinked they are backed by the world. How could the world be so blined to ignorant to the truth??? It hurts me so much. I really hate the UN i reallly hate them. I can never forgive them. I can not express how much I hate the UN!!!

You have the audacity, from far away Florida, to tell me my backyard does not belong to me, but to your jewish Zionists in Washington? You must be deranged. Squeeze some more orange juice until your are back to your senses. The Palestinians are not going anywhere sweetheart. Better live with it and plan accordingly.

if you have property in Jerusalem, sel ! Sel ! market of J'lem is going down.

1. Israel became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam. 2. Arab refugees began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel. 3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E, the Jews had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years. 4.The only Arab domination since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years. 5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit. 6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 hundred times in Bible. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran. 7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem. 8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem. 9. Arab and Jewish refugees: Arabs were not driven out of their homes. Following the UN decision on Partition in 1948, the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders, promising to purge the land of Jews. They argued that an "Arab presence" would only get in the way of the planned devastation. Sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier. 10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms. 11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees absorbed by Israel from Arab countries is estimated to be the same. 12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples'lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey. 13. The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one Jewish nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won. 14. The P.L.O.'s Charter still calls for the destruction of the state of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank and autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied their police and security forces with weapons. 15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Jewish grave markers were used to build public urinals in occupied Jerusalem. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths. 16. The U.N. record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel -- notwithstanding the fact that the Arabs refused to participate in the 15 nation United Nations Commission of Palestine which recommended partition in 1948 and sought immediately to undo its work by force of arms. 17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel. 18. The U.N. was silent while 58 Jerusalem Synagogues were destroyed by the Jordanians between 1948 and 1967. 19. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives between 1948 and 1967. 20. The U.N. was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall between 1948 and 1967.

Fares, What a pile of crap. The PRC openly states that the Hudna is a trick to re-arm and re-train after the beating they took. The UN is so ridiculously biased that it no longer has any credibility. PALs walked away from more than reasonable offers of 100% Gaza and 92% WB and opted for Intifada 2 instead. They sent suicide bombers to murder our children at the dolphinarium, to Mikes Place - Sbarro, etc. They exploited our kindness of giving them badly needed jobs to use the tactical knowledge gained to bomb Park Hotel in Netanya and Heb. Univ. cafeteria. And when we voluntarily showed good faith and great stupidity in leaving Gaza all we got back was Qassams and kidnappings. The truth of the matter is that PALs in Arab countries are kept in refugee camps because they are troublemakers. They have been kicked out of Jordan and Lebanon and hopefully Israel will get rid of them (WB and Gaza, not the good Israeli Arab citizens of Haifa, Akko, Nazareth, etc who enjoy our prosperity in peace). On the other hand, look at the Arab/Moslem terror from the murder/rapes in Darfur, beheadings, destruction of holy shrines of all faiths (Budha in Afghanistan, Golden Dome Mosque in Samarra, countless Christian and Jewish sites), the lunatic of Teheran, burning trains in India, terror on every continent, civil war in Iraq and soon Lebanon. Look at their beating women in Afghanistan, FMG, Honor killings, lack of education and rights for their own women, etc. There is no hope of peace with the people of Islam (peace or submission). Their idea of peace is our submission. Their thirst for our blood is insatiable and they openly call for our destruction in the HAMAS charter and the PAL people endorsed HAMAS and their charter to govern the PAL people. The bottom line is that 67 borders or any offer by PALs is NEVER made in good faith. They will NEVER be satisfied with anything less than our total destruction. The Nazis at least kept the "The Final Solution" a secret. The PALs boast it. Therefore we must do everything to totally crush their terrorist capabilities and/or kill or permanently expel anyone involved with terror against us. No Fare, our economy, military, technology, etc. is strong and growing. PAL terror forces us to create counter-Terror measures which we export for great profit while Terrorist PALs financial support is being withheld. Many of the chips at the heart of your and your Arab brethren's computers were designed in Israel and much of the software too, and again we profit. PALs are destructive and we built and profit. No Fares, Abraham came 3900 years ago. Ishmael and Hagaar were banished. 3500 years ago we conquered Israel. The Bible states that G-d gave it to us. We would have been happy to live in peace but PALs started terror against us nearly 100 years ago and will not stop. Therefore, hopefully PALs will not be here much longer. But we certainly will.

pal-s as of today don't deserve a state, no autonomy, no good attitude from anyone. if they choose to be a nation of fanatical murderers,racists, terrorists, islamic fanatics, why does the world have to help them? they chose their own fate, when they embraced arafat, hamas, islamic jihad and the likes, so now they get what they deserve, and they have the guts to complain that nobody likes them, takes care of them, and doesn't give them a state!do something useful ,pal-s, open more hospitals, social security institutions, schools ( don't teach only how to make bombs there), do business, trade,play sports, write good books, plant trees, renovate the sewage system in gaza, teach your kids not the islamic dogmas which lead you nowhere, but how to be doctors, teachers, engineers, scientists,then the attitude to you will change. till then - don't expect us to cry over you. You've been living on the int. aid and money far too long, and you only wasted it or spent it on weapons. your behaviour is a sheer disgrace.The world - you see daily on TV the marching hordes of bearded, well-fed, well-dressed men with guns in Gaza and West Bank cities - are these the people who deserve your sympathy. Note they're marching their "protests" at the height of business day, when people work, teack, learn etc., there're no women there - a sign which should start the alarm bells ,and these people demand compassion? Is the world feeding the thugs who'll cut its throat someday?

As reasonable and logical as your comment sounds, good luck with it. Whenever there's a glimmer of hope, the before and after pictures of those greenhouses show up in my head, and that hope flies out of the window.The Palis have been fed so much BS for so long, they've come to believe it. Goebbels was right: Tell the worst lies often and loud enough, and they'll be perceived as truth.

keep your (facts) to yourself.Palestine is for Palestinians .