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Report: Bush offers swift Golan withdrawal
Roee Nahmias
Published: 17.10.08, 10:22
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61. Bush Syria and the Golan
DT ,   TA Isr   (10.17.08)
Hullo Everyone ! Certain politicians were saying that "George Bush was the greatest friend Israel ever had " ! Which means that their judgement and reliability is as good as Bush's
62. Golan Heights
muriel ,   israel   (10.17.08)
I don't believe that Bush wrote such a letter - it sounds like a lot of hogwash to me. Bush is an ethical human being and I for one admire him. In any case, if Israel were to give up the Golan for peace with Syria it would be based on a slow withdrawal over a period of 25 years of peaceful relations with them.
63. roll up roll up everybodoes a winner except Israel
zionist forever   (10.17.08)
Bush like Olmert and even Abbas as things stand right now a lame duck and has no authrotiy to make deals on Israels behalf. As for Abbas you would have thought he had more important things to deal with like taking Gaza back from Hamas and working on negotiating the creation of a state for his own people not coming to fight Assads corner. Israel needs the Golan more than it needs a peace treaty with Syria or even Syria breaking ties with Iran. What does Iran get from this relationship with Syira? Assad coming with a begging bowl for more money to pay his debts and to buy some new MIGS. A friend to help promote propoganda. Syria doesnt provide Iran with anything useful so Syria breaking its ties with Iran might be good for left wing propoganda purposes but as far as eliminating the Iranian threat goes it does nothing. What will Israel get out of it. Half a million Syrians flooding the Golan overnight creating a potential Gaza which Assad has plausable deniability when terror attacks are carried out. Assad armed with F16's & Abrams tanks rather than MIGS & T72s which would be the customary part of any peace treaty just as it was with Egypt & Jordan. 30 thousand jews in the Golan would be made refugees probably along with a similar number of non Israeli Druze who will be driven out by the flood of arabs and rather than start wanting to live under Assad they are going to start looking to Israel for citizenship. Syria will be right up to the borders of the Kineret and knowing Livni, probably Obama, Assad with support from all arab states & the palestinians Israel will share the Kineret waters. Even with American financial support and which given the current economic climate would be limited at best it would still take the country into recesion for over a decade with the cost of housing the Golan refugees, moving military bases, lost income from Golan businesses, that doesnt even include the money the government would be paying in unemployment untill these 30,000+ jews & possibly druze find jobs. Its been three years now and most of the 8,000 jews from Gaza are living in tempory accomodation and are unemployed costing the state millions and the Gaza withdraw alone cost over $1 billion and leaving the Golan would be alot more expensive than leaving Gaza. So a peace treaty will destroy Israel economicly and security wise. It will be a gift for Syria who will get American weapons, probably some cash handouts to pay all his debts, Assad will become a respectable leader in the west and possibly even getting the share Kineret water. Iran will loose a parasite that it doesnt need. Its a win win bargin for everybody but Israel but Israel is the one everybody demands to pay the price for damage to its own interests.
64. Bush pulled the string of this forum's mouth
(10.17.08)
so dear talkbackers don't believe yourselves as free talkers
65. bush and golan
elliot ,   usa   (10.17.08)
the kuwaitii press can be trusted more than bush who leaves office in 3 months---besides ohlmert has a better plan to give away golan for nothing! the syrianswill break any agreement they make anyway--more uncertain is who will enfoce it!
66. It will happen
Shlomo The Homo ,   Tel Aviv   (10.17.08)
The America, the Israeli and the Arab leaders know what is coming. I srael will gave the Golan hights and west bank to complete the full circle. Mark my word it is coming and no one will able to stop it.
67. #24 - The French stole the Jewish Golan...
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (10.17.08)
The French stole the Jewish Golan and gave it to the Arabs. We were fine with this until the Arabs used it to try and steal even more than the 99% of the Middle East they currently occupy. That's when we liberated the Golan. Some people in this world weren't born yesterday, Sayid. If Samir Kuntar wants to liberate Sheba'a and beyond Sheba'a, we will return the favor by liberating Beqa'a and beyond Beqa'a...
68. It is Time
Wise Man ,   USA   (10.17.08)
It is time to return Golan back to the Syrian. it is the right thing to do because you can not steal land by force and claim it is yours. The world will support this solution and I am sure that lots of Israeli will support it too.
69. its not bush,it's criminally insane traitorous Olmert
chaim ,   brooklyn ny   (10.17.08)
70. # 62 muriel
Marcel ,   Florida   (10.17.08)
Bush is an ethical human being ? is it possible that you are a worshiper of hasatan ? You are a good example of why Israel is in the mess that it is in. It appears the state of Israel has been very succesful in dumbing down her citizens being easily led to slaughter. Whta won't you do for a counterfeit peace ? Please organize your friends who think like you and proceed directly west and do not stop until the water of the Med sea fills your nostrils. This is one hope for Israel.
71. Golan
Ben ,   Monroe USA   (10.17.08)
Since when does Bush have the authority to give away a piece of Israel? The most incompetant president the US has ever suffered with now thinks he can swap somebody else's territory for a nebulous idea. No wonder he is known as the schmuck from Texasss.
72. Israel is a bargining chip not an ally
zionist forever   (10.17.08)
The only time Bush was usfull to Israel was when Arik Sharon was running the show in Israel. Sharon made a mistake with the Gaza withdrawl but like no other Israeli politician he had the ability to stand up to the American president and push him around to a degree. After the loss of Sharon and Olmerts rise to power and Bush making people like Rice his advisors everything changed. Olmert was now running around trying to kiss Assads ass and waving the Golan in the air. Bush played poker with Iran saying there was a military option then Iran called his bluff and he folded. Not that he would do anything anyway if he could but Bush outright refused the sale of refueling tankers out of fear they may be used against Iran. This despite the fact the Saudis had only recently placed an order for a number of Airbus tankers so as far as the US is concerned everybody can have these toys but Israel. Bush in his last ditch attempt to create some kind of legacy that doesnt involve Iraq, Afghanistan or sparking a global recesion then he is putting the heat on Israel to make more and more concesions to sponsors of terror. What happened to George Bush the G-D fearing christian who belived America had a duty to support Israel?
73. Bush has one bad idea after another.
David ,   Hartford USA   (10.17.08)
But why Israel would even consider it is beyond all understanding or even rational thought! If this is Bush's best idea on how to bring these two countries to peace, then he is totally out of touch with reality. Let's just give Syria Texas. After all, it was stolen from Mexico anyway.
74. Idiot Bush gives away Israeli land that's not his to give...
marlene ,   Philadelphia, USA   (10.17.08)
Bush should be ashmed of himself for trading Israeli land to make his own job easier. Who the h_ll does he think he is? Whatever he thinks of himself, he's wrong (and stupid). I say give them Texas with their capital in Crawford!
75. Hey Assad: "Texas forĀ Iran!"
Etoile ,   Montreal, Canada   (10.17.08)
This talkbacker is personally prepared to give you the entire state of Texas for peace with Israel. Ain't I a smart peacemaker? Now give me a Nobel!
76. "Desperado Bush"
Barbara ,   Haifa   (10.17.08)
If this rumor is true, then Bush is desperate for a peace plan in his time of office. Even so far as to use BRIBERY - because that is exactly what this is. Hope Olmert doesn't do something foolish in retaliation to the Israeli public.
77. # 68 If it's wrong to take land by force
Bill ,   US   (10.17.08)
than the Arabs shouldn't have attempted it in the first place and you shouldn't be at peace living in the USA.
78. How 'bout Idaho for Iran
Besalel ,   Kew Gardens, NY   (10.17.08)
Seriously, Bush can offer any portion of the US he so chooses to appease Assad. Idaho, Wyoming and North Dakota wont be missed much.
79. Read Isaiah 17:1 to see the consequences of this nonsence.
Rivkah   (10.17.08)
Damascus will be a rubble heap when this land for peace deal is broken like all the rest.
80. 7 Yonatan: The Lord IS taking California from the USA
Rivkah   (10.17.08)
slowly, by the invasion of Hispanic people from Mexico and elsewhere who are now nearly half the population of California. When America (notable horn of Daniel chapter 7 & 8) breaks into four nations, one will be a bear which is most likely Mexico backed up by Russia. A bear is a symbol of Mexico and Russia. AZATLAN is the name of the country forming. LIke Barak Obama says, "Learn Spanish." John McTernan's book, "As America Has Done to Israel" documents the judgments of America for forcing Israel into land for peace deals and other concessions.
81. Bush doesn't own Israel
(10.17.08)
82. OMG!!! What a load of crap!
D   (10.17.08)
83. Bush Administration & Appeasement
Hinda ,   SF Bay Area - Calif   (10.17.08)
To George - I guess English is not your first language -- let me guess - Arabic? How does it feel to be a "refugee" in Canada - did you lie to get there as well as many of your bretheren have for the last 20 years? Why are you there? Golan was never promised -- it was discussed but Rabin walked away. Oops I guess Al-Jazeera didn't show that part.
84. Jan 20th - Bush & Appeasers LEAVE!!!!
Hinda ,   SF Bay Area   (10.17.08)
The election is within a few weeks, but the 20th of January 2009 will be the final day of one of the US's worse presidential administrations next to Jimmy Carter's. We can only hope that the days of appeasing the terrorists will be over. Americans - DO NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA!!!
85. 47 FO: Excellent post.
Rivkah   (10.17.08)
86. Land Give-a-way
Rex ,   Florida   (10.17.08)
Obviously, Bush does not understand the scriptures! God gave the land to Israel and told them to never give it away. Bush is steady pushing Israel to give away the land for peace. He must not know that he is begging for the wrath of God to come upon him and the U.S. Look at what is happening to the U.S economy and to the U.S.dollar now! Read the book Face to Face and it will be explained to you very clearly.
87. Golan Heights
David S ,   Greenwood SC USA   (10.17.08)
We have NO RIGHT to give the Golan Heights to the anyone. It belongs to Israel. The US will be punished by God for giving away his land. God have mercy on you President Bush and God have mercy on the US.
88. Leave Israel Alone!!!!!
Robert ,   farmington,usa   (10.17.08)
Bush needs to leave israel , And take care of America and the Market how can he tell someone else what to do when he cant control his own country this is a bunch of B.S
89. RE: 34 Let's give California to Mexico
Charles Allen ,   Charlotte, NC USA   (10.17.08)
Please do. I am tired of funding the "left coast state"
90. Bush is PM of Israel??
Ben ,   Monroe USA   (10.17.08)
The idiot president of the US has a new title? PM of Israel? What is this latest stupidity? He is giving the Golan away? Bush should have been impeached for his lies to the American public; if this is true, he should be kissed by the Syrians on both cheeks.
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