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New Zealand pubs ban Israelis over Gaza operation
Anat Shalev
Published: 16.01.09, 11:48
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151. Does he ban Chinese and Indonesians too, or only Jews?
A ,   Sydney   (01.17.09)
Yes, Palestinian children are (accidentally) killed by the IDF in Gaza, but Tibetan and Papuan children are slaughtered in cold blood by the Chinese and the Indonesians... Does he ban Chinese and Indonesians "until the slaughter stops"? Does he ban Palestinians, because the Qassam and Grad rockets are aimed at killing (Jewish) women and children? Of course not... he only bans Jews... he is an anti-Semite.
152. 107,108 - interest facts -----READ THIS !!
strong israeli ,   TEL _AVIV   (01.17.09)
Hamas agree to the cease fire ???- you are living in some movie girl !!! There was no day even one ,when hammas turned their money to build something for you ,yeeea for you palestinian,instead of this they turn all the money to buy explosive and weapons,israel army even if want can't shut rockets without reason because they just want to do so,because it is organized army,and no one ever shuting palestinian for they own fun,,you are so stupid to tell these things that it makes laugh .Hamas shuting rockets in order to hurt innocent people intentionally,,I can tell you as a soldier,that army of israel never ever did things intentionally,,and that is the major different between us.Did you forget little fact,,people of Sderot are living with these rockets 8 years.And you forgot that week before the Israel response every day were a lot of rochkets like rain in sderot,,,So I will tell you it time to cick your stupid ass,,yes in war dying people and I'm not like that at all,,BUT this time you passed all borders..what did you expect all this time ??? that we will agree to this situation ??? I want to tell you ,,that there is no human army in all world like israel one,,that before any bombing will call you to leave the house that will trowh from airplane letters from sky,,that will take palestinians to our hospitals,that will allow a hundreds of trucks with food in a war time...So please tell thanks that you are exist at all,,because in Chechniya or in Georgia you was erased from that world without any questions and any warnigs before.In Iraq or Afganistan you was not mentioned in media at all,,and no one even knew who you are.. And you are full of impudence to tell that media is not showing what is going on there,,i think Fox is the only pro israel media and else are showing things that even not etic to show like EL -Gazira,and are pro arab,,,Yeeaaaa muslims are human,,that prefer the death instead to live,,please show me normal mother in any nations that sending her child to explose him self ,in order to kill innocents ,,show me please,,and she is vary proud of that,,,of what ???? of that fact that you kill intentionally.Shame on you ,,and you should be shame that you are grow in this kind of environment..What do you so proud to be Palestinian ??? you did not do anything good to those arround you,,just destruction,evil,and hate.Yea muslims don't bite,,but inside yorself you hate eachone who is not same with your opinion.Look at palestinians that are participate in demonstrations,,your eyes are full of hatenes and ready to kill jews not because we are isarailians but because we are jews..And to all the world and pro palestinians,,I want to tell that the day when islam will explose in to your faceses because of high birth rate,,any person who will not be muslim will be thinked as not relevant to live ,,this day is very close to you,,and only than you will undarstand that things the we are doing not because we want to do them, were necessary to all human kind. I'm very sorry for your suffering,but you people of palestine are guilty in all that ,instread of living in harmony and progress,you are not doing anything to improve your life style.We did not choose HAMAS you choose him ,,so be responsible for the results. God bless the people of Israel.
153. Behaviors
Zed ,   Fort Worth, USA   (01.17.09)
I see here a cultural issue: Among Jews, especially those living in Israel, it is part of the culture/religion to always play the victim. From their perspective, people just want to hurt or kill Jews "for no reason." Illogical, of course, because things don't happen for "no reason." But, that's the first thought from these people. It's never introspection. It's never, "hmmm, what is that I, or my people have done wrong to create this kind of animosity." Nope, that doesn't run through their minds. If it does, its fleeting, and the thoughts return to "they just hate us because we're Jews." This is the Jewish religion's major flaw, and has always been their downfall. You get expelled from countries for what you do more often than for what you are, but they don't get that. They'd much rather rationalize themselves into a hoped for outpouring of sympathy. There's much to be gained from that. Easier to do than admitting you are wrong. Of course, this cultural psychological flaw is NOT curable. It can only be relieved by abandoning the religion. Not likely to happen. Therefore, we can all sit back and witness this generation after generation. Jewish person treats person bad, other person retaliates, Jewish person cries "persecution." Over and over again. Aren't you all sick of it?
154. joshua....why are so mad about it? please change
Maria ,   MD   (01.17.09)
your name into a different one.You're putting that to shame. Joshua means savior.Please change it if you're agreeing with their religion.
155. 11 go get a diaper and stop pretending to be Israeli
truth   (01.17.09)
156. Israeli Barred from Decent Company
Katz Freedman ,   NYC/USA   (01.17.09)
Thus it is. The horror has gone on too long. There is a blight on all Jewish people, because criminals misuse the good name of the Jews, and hide behind Jewish skirts. Arrest the war criminals, now. I can only feel betrayed by the criminal actions of the Israelis. I join in a boycott of all Israeli goods, services, and citizens. You make me ashamed that you call yourselves Jews. Boycott Israel, Israelis and everything that flows from stolen land and bloodthirsty villians who pretend to be Jews.
157. My Support for Israel
Jackie ,   Texas, USA   (01.17.09)
I want to show my support for Israel and let you know there are MANY like me in the U.S. but you wouldn't know it by our drive by media, msnbc, nyt, etc. because they are in love and members of the Obama mania cult. They do not represent our feelings and sentiments. Be strong, there are many behind you in the states, the liberal biased media here may not show it, but it's there!! Jackie-Texas Conservative Republican
158. Re: Lousy Pub...
Michael G. ,   New York City, NY   (01.17.09)
Yes, and the wine there is probably sour too... The World is Watching. Zionists - kicked out of many nations to wander the desert for years - and never understanding why. So sad really.
159. 116 collective punishment
Rachel   (01.17.09)
Your a hypocrite of the worst kind, when Hamass committed collective punishment by murdering hundreds of innocent Israeli women and babies by suicide bombing Israeli buses, pizza and icecream parlors or when thousands of rockets landed in nursing homes or kindergartens over the last 8 years nice folks like you were and still are strangely silent. Your concern and compassion for innocent babies and women is very selective
160. Bandar-Your Hezshatan gang were as quiet as mice this time.
Alan ,   SA   (01.17.09)
Next time you'll really get a good beating. Hezshatan is a one trick pony .You will call it "divine victory 2".Also the Lebanese Army and the rest of Beirut.
161. #142 that price was before the ban, now much higher
observer   (01.17.09)
162. Muslim Pub
john heraux ,   los angeles CA. USA   (01.17.09)
Who is this Idiot bigoted who is according to islam not supposed to sell alcohol but now is banning Israelis from his pub. Two Face....
163. Arabs can't run for office
Steve ,   Toronto Canada   (01.17.09)
So if Arabs can no longer run for office in Israel than I guess Israelis being barred from pubs is not that big a deal is it?
164. #116 did'nt you mother teach you to spell your own name?
sm ,   Canada   (01.17.09)
165. #108 Matt - seems you are unhappy
ss ,   isr   (01.17.09)
you think the number of dead jews is a bit less? Would you like more of us to die so that you can sympathize? Well we said "No More" and we mean it.
166. To Bopper
Tuhi-Ao ,   Aotearoa   (01.17.09)
And here you are talking on behalf of Maori which I presume from your comments that you are not. Things are not all sweet and dandy here. Did you not see the hikoi against the Seabed and Foreshore Act? Did you miss the racist so-called Terror Raids of 2007? Do you think a few measly million dollars compensates for having millions of hectares of land stolen and abuse for over 160 years? Think again buddy.
167. One or two points...
David ,   New Zealand   (01.17.09)
A: Private business-owners are free to serve, or deny service to, anyone they please... it is not illegal (it would be if they were state-provided services like health-care or social-welfare). If those fools don't care to make money it is their choice. Sympathy for the stance of these men can be judged by the almost complete lack of fuss over the incidences (only a very, very small number object vocally), if it had been almost any other group of people being persecuted against there would have been a national outrage - but trust me, nobody cares. B: New Zealand stands head-and-shoulders above all other post-colonial nations in regard to relations and reparations with it's indigenous peoples. C: The perception of Israel as a respectful, law-abiding nation and a friend to NZ (once wide-spread in this country) took a heavy blow when Mossad agents were caught illegally acquiring NZ passports by impersonating local cerebral-palsy sufferers; not surprisingly these criminal violations of a country who was supposedly a friend by spies and diplomats squandered much trust and goodwill on behalf of many New Zealanders.
168. Excuse Me ???
henry balfour ,   Nelson, New Zealand   (01.17.09)
Heavily dependent on Arab trade ? That is a gross mis-statement. Yo ucan also retract the (typical) remark about the Maori. Do not speak of what you do not understand. No one is currently shooting Maori women and children, or cutting off their medical and energy supplies. The attempot to make a moral equivalence between Israels racist actions in palestine and the NZ balance with the maoris is another example of Jewish projection.
169. speak for all NZ peoples
Henry Balfour ,   Nelson, New Zealand   (01.17.09)
not just your crew. I live in a town of around 40,000 people, and the general attitude here is that Israel is way out of order. The motivation of people to jump tothe defense of this kind of uber-bullying by Irael is a result of their own loyalties, not the nationals who are born and love New Zealand. Israel only suceeds in deflecting the richly deserved criticism due to it's huge, world-wide Diaspora of motivated gate keepers who are driven to write, phone and blog in pro-Irael matters as part of the Jewish neurosis of clannishness. What we need to achnowledge is that many thousands of unheard voices exist inside Israel, unknown numbers of Israelis are horrified by the Gaza actions of their government, but as in the USA recently, they are crucified in public as "Self-hating Jews" ... What a tragic Orwellian censorship that is, and how creepy.
170. 156,107,108,TO ALL BLEEDENG HEARTS HERE
strong israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (01.17.09)
Where have you been when 8 years Palestinian shooting Sderot intentionally?? aaaa ??. Where have you been when Hamas killed hundreds of Patah members,by throwing them from high buildings ,also your blood am I right ??. Where the world was when turkey killed thousand of kurds ??. It is very comfortable not even think about it ,,because the JEWS topic is more juicy aaaa??? You primitive pro arabs. You can kiss our you know what,,holocaust will never back again.
171. same thing
nadia ,   long live, palestine   (01.17.09)
same thing in America. Muslims cannot read the Quran in class but Christians can read their bible.
172. #105
Nadia ,   Long Live, Palestine   (01.17.09)
They did mistreat Muslims in several places in the world and especially in your beloved land AMERICA. And for the millionth time honey, IT WAS NOT MUSLIMS. >refer to your own government. [end]
173. #129 ...That's just getting old
Nadia ,   Long Live, Palestine   (01.17.09)
Are you done laughing at your pitiful jokes? It is gettin old and tired. Try a new one son. Get an edumacation because you seem to be so limited in your knowledge. Lame...tsk.
174. re Tuhi-Ao
Maori girl ,   israel   (01.17.09)
it is exactly ur kind of thinking that causes trouble everywhere around the world.. NZ is not perfect, people like u cant accept the past and move on. U forget to mention, how the maoris were dumb and tricked into selling lots of the land. Guns for land ?? Ring a bell ?? GAWD it happened, the maoris are the luckiest indigenous group in the world.. And to whoever insulted me about getting glasses.. SUre i saw it was 2 placed who did this.. Im on ur side u dip stick, and look at how u talk to me?/ doesnt that just show u something ?? It sure shows me. Israelis are not liked as tourists in general, they are rude and arrogant. Living in Israel for 3 years shows me even more. Stop picking on NZ. its one of the nicest most welcoming countries ur'll ever see.. They have no idea of the history here in israel. Pallywood seems to work all over the world. I do my part by trying to educate my freinds and family back home. And will continue to do so..... Like i say before u cant judge a tree from one bad apple or in this case 2
175. #114 Uh sweetie, same thing with your leaders.....
Nadia ,   Long Live, Palestine   (01.17.09)
Uh sweetie, same thing with your leaders.....they steal...and hide in their bunkers while their men and some civilians are dying. Looks like you need a reality check up. Make an appoinment soon.
176. Stolen land, eh?
Pakeha ,   Aotearoa   (01.17.09)
Bobber is right, Tuhi-Ao, the Maori (sort of similar to the Israelis, come to think of it) have a strong political grip on "correctness" of their victimhood. Wrongs were, and still are, done in this country to Maori (and to others) but the fact remains, you stole this land on the same basis as it was "stolen" from you. Your ancestors arrived here and lived alongside a pre-existing culture that you gradually hunted into extinction. Genetics were swapped into the Maori lines too, and can be verified. New Zealand was not comparable to Palestine, and before you rattle the bones of your ancestors, chum, lets look at the bones of the Celts who lived here and loved this land before you landed your war canoes.
177. anti-Semiticism
Mike Horgan ,   Winton, New Zealand   (01.17.09)
It not hard to understand why Isreal needs to take the stand it does, given the hate in the hearts of those cultures they have to deal with as neighbours. Have we not yet become civilised enough to communicate sensibly, make concessions, and move on in peace? Let us get rid of the "hate" please!
178. Muslim
Kiwi980   (01.17.09)
The answer is in the core of the text; the owne rof the pub is a muslim. Everywher ein the world wher eyou got these guys you giot problems. In EUrope it is the same picture. Muslims are teh roots of all that hate. They have to be punished. I would not be surprized if one night that pub will be set ablaze. There should be a violent answer to any violent offense.
179. New ZEATLAND?
Walter Lane ,   Beverly Hills, USA   (01.17.09)
Learn to spell THEN you can talk about world conquest, moron.
180. New Zealand pubs ban Israelis over Gaza operation
Andrew ,   Brighton   (01.17.09)
Well done New zealand,we in europe should take the same action.
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