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Rabbi Yosef describes Rachel's 'manifestation' in Gaza
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 25.01.09, 14:06
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61. sent by terrorists to increase civilian casualty
observer   (01.26.09)
62. miracle!; rules of engagement changed
observer   (01.26.09)
that's why the IDF troops would enter first a house with suspected terrorists inside to verify presence of gunmen, then shot later.
63. #55 Bravo; #60 Wash Your Mouth Out
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (01.26.09)
with soap, Reza. Jewish soldiers, esp the IDF, would never do anything like that. They are too good and have too much control over themselves to do anything so gross. Jews love children. Jews are against spilling blood and against torture by our Torah. Stop spreading lies. And bleep your sources. *** Nicole, I am with you 100%. Many of these posters have a very limited understanding of Judaism and equally limited tolerance. *** Regarding "miracles" and unusual occurrences: It is a tenet of Orthodox Judaism that Hashem watches over everything and nothing happens "by accident". Effect follows cause in a very complicated pattern that in general is beyond human understanding. Hashem sets in motion and regulates natural occurrences and laws of nature, and either can suspend them (an actual miracle) or has built into the fabric of existence anomalous occurrences which get triggered by the cause/effect mechanism. This is part of a large religious framework, so articles on this subject by Ynet are simply not informed enough to give the accurate story or to understand what the gedolims' quotes actually mean.
64. ISRAEL : THE THEOCRATIC DEMOCRACY :p
mohammed ,   meknes   (01.26.09)
I HAVE TWO QUESTION IS RACHEL ASHKENAZI JEW ? AND WHY DIDN'T SHE STOP THE HAMAS HOME MADE ROCKETS?
65. #55 and #63 thank you
jewish girl ,   israel   (01.26.09)
66. shas losing votes. it never was a real spiritual movement
faithfredom.org ,   israel   (01.26.09)
but political. and in politics lies are instruments to gain votes.
67. Wonderful
era ,   Jlem, Israel   (01.26.09)
I would advice the IDF to do a drug screening on those soldiers involved. Maybe they had some real bad Lebanese hashish the day before. At least that is more likely than the appearance of a jewish matriarch-zombie... What comes next? Soldiers seeing Elvis giving an after death concert on the frontline?
68. Nicole , full of miracles ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.26.09)
Can you give some of the "quantities" you talk about , sane people can accept as miracles ? Can you give some a scientific examination will accept as being so ?
69. liars!, she whispered – "Rachel Corrie"
observer   (01.26.09)
She was Rachel weeping for her children in Gaza, Palestine, massacred by Herod (Israel).
70. 68
nicole ,   tzfat   (01.26.09)
the last day of the war and the last bomb. the siren didnt sound and the bomb hit a shelter. if people would have heard the siren and ran to the shelter they would have been injured. i missle fell in a synogague right after shacharit on saturday no one was there, everyone went back to school except one school which in that school fell a grad missle, a missle fell in a highshcool no on injured, a katyusha fell in a nursing home all the rooms sustained damage and luckily that morning breakfast was early and no one was in the room. houses had received direct hits and for some reason or another they werent there. you call this chance and luck i call this a miracle.
71. Miracles?
Ben ,   Monroe USA   (01.27.09)
Nicole, you have the right to believe in miracles. Too bad there was no miracle for the 6 million.
72. #63 you don't even believe the BBC
reza ,   iran   (01.27.09)
Brana every one knows the BBC is pro-Western and pro-Israeli , and yet you don't believe its stories. You Israelis have been brainwashed by government propaganda. I wonder how many children would be killed in Gaza if Jews did not love children.
73. 56 Dorothy Friend, Tel Aviv: Apparitions of females has
Rivkah   (01.27.09)
been occurring for thousands of years, but often it is a decieving spirit and is not holy even though it seems so. Angels in the Hebrew text of the Bible are always masculine in gender, so the apparition of warning is not an angel unless the angel takes on the appearance of a woman since Rachel is a symbol of Israel. When Rachel wept for her children and they were not during the slaughter of baby boys in the reign of King Herod, it was a symbol (Rachel) of Israel. It might be the prayers of Israel caused the Lord to allow an angel to take the form of a woman, so the IDF would see Rachel in her warning and heed it.
74. #71 - Ben, There was a miracle...
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (01.27.09)
... it's called D-Day.
75. Nicole , this are NOT miracles
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.27.09)
I agree that those facts you mention happened , but to call them miracles i would need more research . If you call those facts miracles , how do you call those catastrophes where Israeli soldiers were killed by friendly fire ? For me they were unlucky , the others very lucky .
76. Joe 74
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.27.09)
D day was not a miracle , and on 6 th June 44 , it was already much too late for many of the six million
77. Rabbi Ovadia
Andrew Casey ,   Sydney Australia   (01.27.09)
This stupidity about Rachel appearing before IDF soldiers should be condemned as a contravention of Judaism for the obvious idolatory that it is. The great Rambam warned all Jews against such hocus pocus magic belief centuries back. We Jews have survived because we gave up such childish beliefs . We've grown up a long time ago. Let's leave such infantilism to other religions and belief systems. Israeli soldiers won because they were well-trained, disciplined and committed to defending the democratic values of Israel against an authoritarian clericalist terrorist regime.
78. #31 - Yes
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (01.27.09)
79. Rachael
Gin ,   Escalon, USA   (01.28.09)
How did Rachael become and angel??? Angels are created by God and so are people. The Angel that appeared was an evil spirit because the dead know nothing acording to the bible and if you are praying to dead people they can not hear you.
80. Rachel
Joe ,   London UK   (01.28.09)
Why couldn't there be a beautiful woman named Rachel who was not the Matriarch Rachel? They know what they saw and heard, but why assumeit was a spirit?
81. 60 Reza: Were the phosphorus burns from Hamas' weapons that
Rivkah   (01.31.09)
exploded? Hamas also exaggerated the number of deaths in Gaza. Truth is often the first casualty of wars.
82. Talula: I never met you, but I bet you're not very pretty
Bibi ,   France   (02.08.09)
I don't necessarily disagree with you, maybe Rachel wasn't really there, maybe she was... who cares... But I can feel your bitterness just by reading your comments. You know, if you're not pretty it's not the end of the world, you can still work on your inside beauty. Hugs and kisses.
83. # 18, Dan: That's hillarious!!! LOL
John ,   Yerushalayim   (02.08.09)
LOL Truth is, I actually believe it could have been Rachel Imenu, but that was a good one!
84. Demographic Mystery, response to Anna
August Braam   (03.13.09)
It is true that during WW II Jews in the Soviet Union and the United States took part in the military effort to defeat Nazi Germany. It is also true that Jews suffered violent persecution in the Soviet Union and more subtle persecution in the U.S.. However, the point regarding Jewish demographics at the start of WW II is that the largest populations of Jews were located in places that were not readily accessible to Germany’s military, i.e., the Soviet Union and the U.S.. As a person trained to be objective, and to look at facts and shy away from speculative answers, I asked the question as to whether the locations of these two populations were coincidental? If they were not, then the implication is that they were planned. However, because it took centuries for this demographic pattern to occur, it could not have been planned as a preventative measure to Nazi Germany’s goal of Jewish genocide. Therefore, the question remains as to whether the demographic pattern was coincidental.
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