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Bring down the wall
Eldad Beck
Published: 11.11.09, 00:48
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61. Mohammad #53
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (11.12.09)
This discussion is getting too lengthy... 1. Even if the leadership in the West Bank would be of Hamas, we would still be safe because a) the security fence/wall, and b) unlike in Gaza, WE control all the entries to the West Bank, and therefore it is much, much harder to smuggle firearms and rockets over there. 2. I never called for Israel to annul citizenship for its Arab citizens. I called for the Arabs themselves to do it! The question is - why would Israeli-Arabs not want to be citizens of Palestine? After all, they view themselves as Palestinians, don't they? So what's wrong with being annexed to Palestine, instead of Israel? Maybe it's because they have it so good over here, in so many respects. 3. These historic facts I mentioned are well-documented, I'm sure you could find them in most history books (those not published in Arab states). But I have no problem for us to avoid this subject, as personally I think history is irrelevant. It doesn't really matter who was here first, and whether history is on the Jews or Palestinians' side, because the past will not change the present. The most compelling historical arguments will not move either side away. Therefore we must look for a solution in the present, not the past. 4. Everything I said is very much provable. It wasn't just stories and hearsay - it was actual footage. Answer me honestly - the terrorists day-camps for children, the vicious antisemitic cartoons, Farfur, the disgusting exhibition about the Sbarro massacre, the guy proudly waving his bloody hands after murdering two Israelis, the glorifications martyrdom by killing Israeli civilians, the call to liberate ALL of Palestine while bringning "death to Israel" - Are all these things made up, never happened? Are ALL of these, plus countless other examples I didn't list - lies? Even if one-quarter of this is true, this proves Arab hate toward Jews is much stronger than the opposite. 5. Nobody makes peace out of sheer goodness of the heart. There has to be an advantage or a vested interest to be gained by peace, for all sides involved. But who cares what our motivation is for peace. As long as we want it, and willing to do what it takes to achieve it, that's what counts. The Pals should focus on their own interests for peace.
62. To Tahl #61
Mohammad ,   Jordan   (11.12.09)
As you said the discussion is really getting too lengthy, so i am sending you this to thank you for taking the time for this discussion. We dont have to agree, but at least we exchanged opinions. I wish you and all Israelis a bright and peaceful future. A strong and modern Israel is a positive for all humanity. Shalom.
63.  60 mohammed you cannot answer because
hans ,   stuttgart germany   (11.12.09)
you do not accept prof history ,
64. :: Kenny - #55
Matty Groves ,   Fairport   (11.12.09)
Thanks you for your reply and the questions posed therein. However before I answer any of them I would like you, out of courtesy, to answer the question I asked in all sincerity in my previous post: “If, theoretically, the Jews had a country/land/province called Israel for the last 1,000 years and it was then occupied Western powers who then split this Jewish land and gave half to any and all Native American Indians who chose to migrate there. Kenny if this was the scenario do you think the Jews would just sit back and let their land be given away? *Do you think the Jews would not resist in some manner?*”
65. #62 Mohammad
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (11.13.09)
It was nice to exchange views with you. Thank you for your wishes, I wish well to you and your peace loving friends in Jordan. Salaam.
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