you were saying what? :) you have said flotilla report will vindicate israel and turkey would be embarassed :) now you say UN has double standarts implying your irritation with the report you gotto know what you are saying mam :)

Wisely spoken Muhammed. Walla the turk is getting a big head and he does not know which way to go. with Iran, Alawi's, Hezbulla; and I thought he was sunni. He should be ashamed to ask for blood money and should apologise that he did not have the power to stop them before causing so much trouble. Some here would think him a Feigele.

to stop this band of violent activists from breaching a legal blockade, is there room for an international lawsuit against Turkey for supporting an attack on Israeli sovereignty, providing support to a known terrorist group, and the indirect act of war on Israel and its people?

IDF soldiers with the inconveniencing of "activists" with a longer wait by Israel. It looks like the report is pulling at straws to find something on Israel in order to balance the very damning evidence on Turkey. Considering the unknowns on this boat of 600, just after being attacked and almost lynched, subduing the occupants on the ship and keeping them in control until the situation is worked out is more than justified. Watch how law enforcement handles violent gang related incidents or other mobs. When people are arrested, they are kept in strict control until the situation is under control and officers are out of harm's way. Same here.

"the violence of the Turkish activists REQUIRED the IDF to use force" Notice the other e5 ships saw ZERO violence and were treated well by the IDF.

... can be called the most anti-diplomatic situacion of our times... ... If it does necessary, I would pay everthing to see things happening well............................................................................................................. :(

Some of the soldiers were injured in their attempt to take the ship by the mob. Erdogan could have stopped the ship sailing or at least ordered the captain to turn back at anytime but he didn't. Time for Erdogan to apologize to and compensate the injured soldiers. As for their forensic evidence that most of the dead were shot several times did it never occur to these people that soldiers like to fire more than 1 shot just to make sure the bad guy stays down. Mini Uzis are also automatic weapons not bolt action rifles so you tend to shoot more than 1 bullet at a time. I would also be very surprised if the soldiers were handing out candy to the mob thats just been trying to kill them.

The UN even called it "The Armenian Holocaust". Did Turkey apologize for that ? Israel has the right to defend itself. It is surrounded by crazy murderous people who see apologies as weakness and a trigger for even more violence on their behalf. Really! Leave the only democracy in the middle east alone!

As compensation, how about giving the Kurdish freedom fighter millions of dollars worth of anti tank and anti helicopter munitions to defend themselves against the Turkish army?

... as excessive and unreasonable force when dealing with terrorists. No ... such ... thing.

Your non sequitur does not track. I am irritated that the United Nations maintains a double standard with respect to Israel, but I am EXTRAORDINARILY pleased that Turkey has been so terribly embarrassed. You guys can kiss your membership in NATO good-bye real soon now ....

The short answer is "Yes." But, of course, with the caveat that while Israel will likely get the judgment, it might prove difficult to enforce. Best way would be to sue in a friendly jurisdiction -- the United States; perfectly feasible since that is where the United Nations is headquartered -- and then the U.S. can, if it so chooses, trap Turkish money on deposit in U.S. banks.

Turkish American Furkan Dogan Shot 5 Times in the Head at Close Range on Gaza Aid Flotilla................. Ibrahim Bilgen, was shot four times in the temple, chest, hip and back Two other men were shot four times, and five of the victims were shot either in the back of the head or in the back............................................... God will judge you..............................

And who'll decide who is terrorist and who not? Were the members of Irgun terrorists?

You have to admit this report was funny, predictable, but funny. I researched this when it happened and posted several links to International Law experts. I was accused of course of Hasbara, as it's used falsely (a propagandist and liar) by the anti-Israel writers. So were my sources, the proof was, some sources were Jewish Lawyers. Now any Arab Lawyer or writer (who vilified Israel) was telling the truth though..Hmmm. Now we see that my sources as well as myself were correct, the blockade and the enforcement, was entirely legal. So why would Israel have to issue a public statement of "regret" and "pay compensation"? If somebody (or many) breaks into my home at night, and while in hand to hand fighting I kill them in my house (even shooting one in the back while still in my house). I would carry NO legal liability, even if one was only a 16 year old (which wasn't the case here). Of course I would regret the death of the criminals, I don't want to kill anybody. But I wouldn't feel the necessity to issue a statement of public regret, and pay compensation to the burglars. So predictably, the one area that is open to some vague interpretation (even my legal experts predicted this would happen) is what the UN focused on. "Unreasonable and excessive" use of force. Neither is true and cannot be proved in any court of Law. Which why the report, and I quote: "the report recommends" the statement of regret and Israel to pay compensation. Neither will happen. Why? As the report states: 1) Turkey could have done more to stop the flotilla. 2) The Flotilla Lied about their true objectives of the flotilla. 3) The passengers/terrorists clearly started the fight. 4) The IDF "faced violent resistance on board the ship," So the 20/20 hindsight, or Monday night quarterbacking, whatever you want to call it, is silly nonsense. Clearly in the heat of hand to hand combat, while being bludgeoned (with iron rods), stabbed, and thrown from an upper deck to a lower deck, it's not easy to pick and choose your targets, the idea doesn't pass the laugh test. CASE CLOSED

Yes. The Government of Turkey aided, abetted and ecouraged the illegal act of breaching a fully legal and internationally recognized blockade by a terrorist organization, that was traveling to Gaza under false pretenses, i.e., "humanitarian aid." A handful of boxes of expired over-the-counter medication and mouldy blankets do not constitute "humanitarian aid."

Israel. We've had more experience with terrorism than any country on the face of the earth. We know 'em when we see 'em.

the report found excessive force...we KNEW that ages ago. The report found against Turkey not Israel...but in your eagerness to be the victims of the dastardly UN you will concentrate on defending Israel against the ''excessive force'' finding and you will forget about the findings against Tuirkey which are the real story here. You will turn the report into a discussion about Israel instead of a discussion about Turkey. You cannot help yourselves. There really is no hope for you lot...you are terminally stupid.

The report questions the actions of individual Israeli soldiers before and after the incident. That is no big deal....happens all the time and is subjective opinion. Whats important is that the Turks have been condemned on objective facts about the legality of the entire operation. I doubt if the Turks will accept the result but I see no reason why Israel will reject it

Thus Turkey actively sponsored a breach of a legal action taken by Israel in self-defense. Turkey is in no position to demand an apology. Take your demands, Erdogan, and shove them!

It's clear that Israel's blockade of Gaza is legal, as Israel insisted all along. Moreover, its interception even on the high seas was legal, given the ship's declared intent to break the blockade. In addition, Turkey is held culpable for aiding and abetting the IHH militants. All the rest is standard fare - Israel used "excessive" force in defending themselves, yada yada. I'd like to see how the authors would respond if a group of them were being knifed and beaten. Turkey loses. Apology? Yes, we'll consider an apology ... from Turkey. Plan B? Blow it out your ear.

If Israel has right to impose blockade, Turkey assisted the blockbusters in breaking the law. There is a price that Turkey should pay for their crime. There is no such thing as measured response if attacked with any way, with or without weapons - in this instance, weapons were used. My conclusion is that anyone creating such a report is unable to judge any type of law case - they fear making a correct and just decisions that could impact them adversely.

haha you been saying that for over a year and i dont give it one tiny bit of chance that turkey will be out of NATO unlike you i know wht i am talking about :) and turkey is not embarrased i dont fell any emberrasment but you should, the report plays with words to satisfy both sides but it concludes that israel should apologize to turkey mam :) i know u are having hard time to accept but better get used to it but you guys are lucky cause we dont want apology just stay away and we are good ;)

It is irrational to say first that Israel's blockade was justified and the blockade runners were not, and then to say in the same report that Israel must pay compensation. This must have been a misprint in the report. The above two facts, that the blockade was right and the blockade runners were wrong, clearly demonstrate that Turkey, not Israel, must pay damages.

UN doesn't do anything about Darfur killings- check UN doesn't do anything about Syria massacres-check UN doesn't do anything about Turkey killing Kurds-check UN doesn't do anything about human rights in China-check UN doesn't do anything about -Myanmar, Pakistan, Mexico, et. al.-check UN condemns Israel for eveything- check

the report itself, as opposed this article in Ynet, is broadly supportive of Israel. The emotional response of people here is a response to the way Ynet has presented the findings. Ynet is driven by a need to sensationalize the news. Hence you get things taken out of context and presented as Palmer ''slams'' IDF etc etc. The report itself is pretty much what we were all expecting-- Turkey way out of line but Israel used excessive force. I'm not a Sarah B fan but there is nothing in the report which contradicts her earlier claims that it would blame Turkey for the incident.

Supporter of Jihad does not belong in a western alliance

But the recommendation that Israel make payment itself is a moral wrong. According to the report, the blockade was ruled in the right, the blockade runners were ruled in the wrong, and the violence of these blockade runners required the IDF to use force. With these bases in the Palmer report, to advise Israel pay anything is irrational. Any such payment made, whether by Israel or by kind Brazil, would be a miscarriage of justice. Based on the facts of the report, Turkey is the only country that reasonably would be expected to make any payment, but Israel has already shown herself gracious enough not to request this.

What were Mr Dogan, Mr Bilgen and the other men doing while they were being shot? Do you think they were trying to kill IDF members who were legally acting against the Marmara's illegal attempt to run Israel's legal blockade? As to the location of their wounds, did you know that in the midst of a melee it is very possible and even very likely to shoot in the back someone who is trying to kill someone else? If they were trying to bludgeon people to death, then do you really have a problem with the IDF using deadly force against people who are themselves using deadly force? If so, why? What would you expect the Turkish navy to do were the situation reversed? Do you thing that would be right, and again why? You are correct that everything that happened in this situation is seen not by the UN or a small dog, but by God Most High. This is good for Israel. And might not be as good for her enemies.