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Tourists venture to West Bank to 'shoot terrorists'
Akiva Novick
Published: 18.06.12, 13:31
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31. With the trend being to label all...
Shocked ,   UK   (06.18.12)
...Palestinians as terrorists (even children) this abhors me. In the UK shooting for sport means shooting pheasants (bad enough) or clay pigeons. These children are being taught to shoot people for sport. Its disgusting. And yes this won't go down well at all. It just demonstrates how messed up the whole thing is. Ooh there's an old man in a dress...shoot him..he must be a terrorist. I'm appaulled. And all right thinking people will be appaulled too. Its like the Wild West were every Native American was a target.
32. Clearly biased article ......
Yisraeli   (06.18.12)
to bring out responses exactly as #2 & #3 wrote. Those pesty settlers, no morals, they clearly cant be jewish blah blah. To Avramele which I doubt you pretend to be, Gei kaken affen yam, di potz bist-e. and #3 what else to expect from fog minded leftists. Yes Jews are allowed to protect themselves and learning how to is not a crime.
33. 2-way wrong
Leo ,   Canada   (06.18.12)
I am no pacifist or left-wing naive utopia dreamer but children and guns just don't belong together. We need a strong IDF to survive in our neighborhood and, unfortunately, we need to shoot and kill sometimes; but pretending that shooting people is a game or a turist attraction exceeds what any reasonable person would call healthy education and even good taste.. Add children to the picture and it now becomes disgusting. On the other hand, this has probably been going on for quite some time now, and the timing of this note, when similar notes are circulating about Hamas-run summer camps is probably no coincidence. I find this parallel both misleading for those who don't know about Jewish youths programs and also a disgusting political maneuver.
34. Good Training! Go Israel!
Efraim ,   in Virginia   (06.18.12)
This will open their minds too.
35. American jews need to "butch up".
Rio ,   New York   (06.18.12)
This is good training and teaches thats its ok to defend yourself. Its a new world. We have too many enemies out there. Being passive like Romney wont work.
36. Tourists venture to West Bank to 'shoot terrorists'
Lauren ,   Israel   (06.18.12)
Disgusting ...
37. #25 that is the whole point of the article
Danny   (06.18.12)
To "prove" some sort of equivalence between some obscure summer camp and the state-sponsored hamas camps. Difference is that that little girl is unlikely to strap on an explosive belt and blow up a cafe or fire a guided missile at a school bus
38. Differences? Reply to #18 and #23
rs ,   Israel   (06.18.12)
The online report doesn't show what was in the printed newspaper: targets with faces of Palestinians on them. How dehumanizing is that?? And if this is what they're doing with tourists, imagine how they are indoctrinating their own children. We're on a slippery slope here--this is NOT self-defense, this is pure hatred. How can that further a dialogue that will enable both peoples to prosper? Or are we supposed to just shoot them all?
39. the sad thing is the writer was not being ironic
oferdesade ,   israel   (06.18.12)
40. #2 avramele
Jared ,   Oromocto canada   (06.18.12)
obviously thats not what was meant c'mon now it is clear you lack any kind of context, obviously they say that they just learned things they never thought they'd learn in a million years take into account the excitement of the people partaking in this...your disgusting to me
41. #10
Alex   (06.18.12)
If you mind reading the article you'd see these people are American tourists, not Israelis. Anyway, same kind of shooting ranges are found all over America. I guess it's a good way of getting tourists from Texas...
42. #8
Michael ,   Haifa   (06.18.12)
I have accepted for a long time now that you espouse right wing fascism and racism, but this is the first time I have read a talk back from you that designates you as a foul mouthed bitch. Please be less offensive with your language when you legitimately express offensive points of view
43. In the footsteps of the "35" - the Zionist alternative
Avramele   (06.18.12)
Like many, we as a family partook in an historical hike in the footsteps of the lamed hai, secular leftists who in 48 undertook a doomed rescue mission of religious kibbutzim in Gush Etzion. When we debriefed over dinner (at our favorite restaurant in Abu Ghosh btw) my then 14 year old took away the lesson of solidarity, sacrifice and commitment to a higher goal. Vengeance and killing or hatred of Arabs did no enter into discussion. (and yes for historical and security reasons I believe the Gush should be retained by Israel as part of the border adjustment in the final settlement.)
44. #2 please explain
israel israeli ,   tel aviv   (06.18.12)
#2, Ayelet HaShahar is a kibbutz on the side of the Green Line liberated in 1948 and their shooting range advertises "live ammunition at moving targets". What does this say about the moral borders, decency and humanity of the Leftists? Shooting little Arab kids as they run away? Gevalt!
45. Jewish Children learn to defend, Arab children learn to hunt
Josh ,   Philadelphia   (06.18.12)
Jewish children who are unfortunate enough to hold weapons, see them as tools to keep their families safe. They are trained to kill terrorists, not to hunt Arabs. Arab "Palestinian" Children are taught to exterminate Jews, as if we are feral dogs that need to be put down. After thousands of years of persecution, it is the moral obligation for every single Jew to learn how to DEFEND himself, and his brothers. Now after far to many years the defense of Israel is now well organized, and powerful. The evil powers in the world see this, and they are unhappy that they may no longer butcher us at their whim. They call for us to lay down our arms in the name of peace. If the Arabs were to lay down their arms, there WOULD be peace. If Israel, if Jews laid down their arms, we would be massacred.
46. Every Jew should visit this place
Barry ,   Tokyo   (06.18.12)
especially with the whole family!
47. #38 Interesting. And how would you tell?
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (06.18.12)
That they're Palestinians, I mean. Are these any particular or noteworthy Palestinians that would be easily identified, then? Such as, say, actual terrorists? Because, while that would nevertheless make it a banal and foolish show, it would not make it dehumanization of Palestinians. Those *specific* Palestinians dehumanized themselves a long, long time ago. And unless you can actively show that that the range claimed and advertised that these terrorists represent all Palestinians or all Arabs, you'd remain in the wrong.
48. #31 Taught to shoot people for sport?
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (06.18.12)
And then you make that wild leap of logic that every Palestinian becomes a target. Shooting ranges have man-sized and man-shaped targets as a rule. That's in any shooting range you might enter. The clay pigeons you refer to are from a tradition of hunting, an imitation of the same pheasants. Shooting at cardboard targets is not wrong in and by itself. Or dehumanizing. And I do not see any claims that children or helpless old men are terrorists from the text of the article - that is simply the conclusion *you* reached. Re-read the text. It doesn't even mention Palestinians. Or Arabs. It mentions a former military man now working as a range instructor putting up a show, with man-sized targets. Targets that are shown as armed and dangerous - terrorists, in short. For you, perhaps, terrorists are children or old men, killed through Israeli lies. We've often experienced the *other* kind around here - the kind that's armed and dangerous.
49. THIS IS DISGUSTING. ARREST THESE SAVAGES
inetfraud ,   US-IL   (06.18.12)
The very reason the world is disgusted with hamas and hezbollah is that they train their children to hate from such a young age. I am completely abhorred by this. These idiots who put this degrading and barbaric camp together should be booted from the WB and arrested. These thugs want to create a charade of stupidity and ignorance, marring the Jewish character and making us a greater target for violence abroad and cruelty from the haters? I hope all of these thugs get booted from their homes and their homes razed. I am furious about this hateful, disgusting display of stupidity and ignorance. Shame on these people! Shame on them!
50. 31
(06.18.12)
if you had 13,000 missiles raining on london in the hope of muslims killing you soft bellied brits, you'd have a completely different opinion. sitting in judgment when you are safely at home is unbecoming.
51. Bottom lIne - SURVIVAL
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (06.18.12)
It also disgusted me to see 5 year old holding rifle and learning to shoot. These tourists have to be taught that this is a survival course - not something to be enjoyed and bragged about. But I imagine the cameras were clicking all the time for souvenir pictures.
52. #19 - I agree with you
Tamar ,   Gush Etzion   (06.18.12)
As a "Settler" in Gush Etzion, I cannot believe what I am reading. This is disgusting. And the people who partake of this should be ashamed of themselves. I hope that this will be a venture which crashes down soon. May it be so.
53. Chicken Hawks
Scott ,   Tallahassee   (06.18.12)
What a sad attempt to exploit Israel. These Americans come over to shoot rifles and pretend they are heros for a day, while participating in a program that is no different from the Gaza kindergarden graduation all Ynet readers were up in arms about a week ago.
54. #48, well bet all the money in the world
Danny   (06.18.12)
The picture with the girl was posed for the camera and that the "reporter" pretended that there would be a different spin, probably some "free advertising"
55. A white trash dream vacation
mea   (06.18.12)
56. Jews with guns
dba...vagabond trade ,   USA country   (06.18.12)
All Jews who have legal access should become proficient with and keep weapons. Being able to defend oneself is the ultimate security and liberty. No tyrant dares approach a well armed population. "Never again" must be backed up with more than words in this tumultuous Jew hating world.
57. #27 That's absolutely correct!
yesjb ,   Canada   (06.18.12)
You are!!! very TATA
58. DISGUSTING!
exUK ,   TEl Aviv   (06.18.12)
Why do people from thousands of miles away wish to come to take part in such stuff? I can perhaps understand the people there teaching self defense,even if I dont agree with them being there in the first place..but this? The publicity will do untold harm to Israel's image worldwide,and be seen like Hamas summer camps.TERRIBLE
59. West Bank Shooting Range
Adam ,   London   (06.18.12)
What a fantastic place, can't wait to get my Kids down there for a good shoot up.
60. Scott # 53
Eaglebeak ,   Left Coast, USA   (06.18.12)
There is a world of difference. The Gaza children don't have to worry about having their throats slit in the middle of the night. The Gaza children don't have to worry about their neighbors wanting to push them into the sea. The Gaza children are taught to kill a person simply because they are a Jew. In this case children are not being taught to kill because of race but in defence against terrorists. You can tolerate terrorists in Tallahassee if you want but others shouldn't have to.
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