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Israel needs life-saving surgery
David Harel
Published: 28.12.12, 12:48
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31. Let's blame ourselves a little more please
John S ,   London UK   (12.28.12)
I mean us having to put up the wall had nothing to do with the decades of terrorism from the West bank. . . . and oh it's not like it's worked or anything. . . right? This is the most naive POS article I've read on here. Who gave this nut job his degree? Why doesn't he try living in Ramallah for a bit.
32. # 8 Israel's choice not yours and not the
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (12.28.12)
European's who had to be rescued by American troops. Hell if all of Europe fell into the sea tomorrow and disappeared, would anyone notice, or even care?
33. Solution Ignore the bum!
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (12.28.12)
When anyone denigrates Israel's security, he is either a fool or an enemy. In this case, he is both.
34. # 8 Mike Israel's choice not yours anti semite.
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (12.28.12)
I heard that Britain is inviting all the pals to come and live there and have given them your house as a token of your sincerity. Loser.
35. # 24 Maurice maybe he's useful as a hostage
bad Assed Jew ,   United States   (12.28.12)
a professor is worth what now a days on the 'kidnap pal special rate'?? Zero the same as to Israel. No value at all, unless 6' under as fertilizer.
36. YES! ISRAEL'S FRIENDS EVERYWHERE AGREE!
Rafi ,   US   (12.28.12)
37. And just how will you be removing...
Eric ,   Toronto   (12.28.12)
...this cancerous tumor? You are supposed to have a doctorate from MIT. The least you could do is provide some practical solutions that would guarantee Israel's security if the occupation as you call it were to stop. But you can not, can you? Complaining and blaming is cheap! Anyone can do that.
38. Israel Needs Life Saving Surgery
Charles ,   Jacksonville USA   (12.28.12)
David, for all your intelligence you certainly lack critical thinking skills, aka, "common sense". If you have any inkling of history, it was the Arabs that attacked Israel since its beginning. In 1967, Israel won the Gaza and the West Bank as a results of "war". The Gaza and the West Bank along with Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Egypt, Syria, Irag, Balkans, Hungry and more. There was no Palestinian state. There was no Palestinian prior to 1967. King Hussein proclaimed in 1967 that the declaration of the Palestine extended the war that the Arabs lost. Israel does not need surgery, you need to proselitize to the Palestinians about letting go of their hate. Read history and quite espousing your ignorance
39. I didn't get past the headline = leftist N Te Aviv garbage!
michael redbourn ,   Arad   (12.28.12)
40. Noble organs can not be amputated
Istvan ,   BUDAPEST HUNGARY   (12.28.12)
Settlers are the most self confident, patriotic and bodily healthy part of the israeli population. Heart and lung can't be amputated, maximum hand and leg. If amputation is absolutely necessary I suggest the Nazareth-Umm al Fahm area. But to cut an organ ( Jerusalem ) into two pieces is anatomically impossibility.
41. Take out the settlments not the army
Shlomo   (12.28.12)
The only reasonable and feasible solution is and would have been, in Gaza and the west bank, stop and take out the settlements, but not the ARMY, Gaza would have been quiet and without rockets, same in the West Bank thus with a much better negociation position, and diplomatically much stronger and less victimes, suffering and isoloation
42. Mr.Harel's excellent article. I'm taking my hat off.
Obsessive ,   Turkey   (12.28.12)
Al-Qaeda destroys Timbuktu Sufi Shrines. Taliban destroys ancient Buddha. But in India, Hindus are protecting Sufi Shrines (Turks had collected donations from Muslims and Hindus in 1921) Millions of American families are buying Chinese products. Chinese coolies had built the American and Canadian Pacific. They have achieved all the hard work. Americans have saved millions of Chinese lives in WWII. President Roosevelt have supported China. Mr.Harel's Israel is strong enough to make peace. Courageous leadership needed on the Palestinian side. Happy 2013!
43. #6, The SOLUTION
Michael ,   California, USA   (12.28.12)
After many years of warring, the parties to the conflict are too stuck in their positions. They are unable to think creatively and are bringing up future leaders who will not change anything. The only remaining hope is that a solution will be imposed by outside powers. Great Powers and the UN can do it starting today. Impose equally on all the involved parties in the conflict and achieve supervised secure coexistence for enough time to allow new generations of leaders to grow up, leaders with new ideas and creativity. They will be the leaders of peaceful coexistence and intervention from the outside will no longer be needed.
44. Excellent article and predictable talkbacks
esse ,   --   (12.28.12)
It's not about what is "right" or "moral" or "legal" it's about what is best for Israel's long-term survival. And the status quo projected into the future is not acceptable and not conducive for a thriving Israel. We cannot have forever war because all it takes is for us to lose once and we will lose Israel. Almost all of the above objections to the article point to the past as "proof" that ending the occupation won't work. But the bottom line is that it is not the 1930s, it is not 1967, and it is not 2005. It is 2013 (almost) and we need to look at the dynamics of 2013. And the dynamics are that the present situation is untenable and the world is slowly (but surely) beginning to unite around the idea that Israel is an international pariah that needs to be confronted. We can continue to ignore this, or continue to say it is our "right" to continue the occupation. But doing so will put our nation at risk as it WILL bring on international sanctions and the indictment of our leaders. The choice truly is ours and it's time we make the only choice that ensures continued American support, takes away European desire to sanction us, and allows us to reach an agreement with the moderate Arabs/Muslims who will accept Israel's existence if the Palestinians are given a state. In short, we need to stop being so afraid.
45. Occupation/Cancer??
M Carr ,   Baltimore USA   (12.28.12)
As I read the article every time the author mentioned “a cancer” the image of bloodthirsty jihadi terrorists kept popping into my mind. Since the author offered no solutions, I assume he is advocating more outmoded “land for peace” schemes. The author’s obvious motive here is to use grossly inappropriate terminology to induce negative emotional reactions for Israeli center/right voters in the upcoming elections. I believe his tactic will backfire…
46. The Word to describe this article is HALLUCINATIONS
JJJ   (12.28.12)
47. Glasses needed
Taxpayer ,   Hod Hasharon   (12.28.12)
Anybody who cannot see that we are ruling over 2 million people needs their eyes tested. Anybody who does not have intelligence to understand that we are being led down the path to sanctions needs help. The Likud is selling us the lie that the present situation is good for us and managable whilst atthe sametime praying for another intifada or worse to prove them right.
48. harel is wrong, dead wrong
alexi   (12.28.12)
occupation my rear end-you weakling. The arab complaint has to do with 48 and the nakba bs, nothing less. Arabs deny israeli history as they want all of israel and jordan period. goldberg in 67 alluded to withdrawal in return for peace and not all territories. Israel is the rightful owner of the west bank and even jordan so what are you talking about. If there was no terror, then there would not be long lines. you make me sick, you and the rest of the nakba bleeders who deny jewish history and want to go into arab ovens. What assad is doing to his people is what palestinians want to do to israelis.weitzmann insititue should boot harel out for being a shimon peres illusionist totally disconnected from reality and for w hich thousands of israelis have been wounded or killed.
49. Palestine Israel, coming to a theater near you, soon
Steven Benassi ,   Silver Bay, MN USA   (12.28.12)
...hope you enjoy the show, 6M Jews, 9M Palestinians.
50. #44
DavidR ,   USA   (12.28.12)
You speak of your concern of "losing israel." So, your solution is to give it away? How logical is that? Have you considered the fact that everything given away so far has been used as a weapon against Israel? If we follow your advice and give it away and they turn Judeah and Shomron into a rocket launching mecca, then what? Have you considered how difficult it would be to get it back? Do you honestly believe that it could ever be regained outside of an act of HaShem? Perhaps you don't believe in Hashem! Perhaps that is why you don't heed His Words regarding the division of His Land found in Joel, Zechariah and Amos the Prophets of Israel and Yhudah! Nu! if that is the case, at least try using a little common sense.
51. #42 Michael, CA - Just for starters
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (12.28.12)
who do your want the Great Powers to impose themselves on first Arabs, Jews or you just don't give a damn USA intervened, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libry & Egypt are total messes as a result USAA has been in South Korea for 60 Years, it's still a glorious mess
52. # 44 TAKE A VOTE
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (12.28.12)
See how many Arabs want Israel to exist. I'm willling to bet that the vast majority of them don't As for being Afraid, all the Muslim States want Israel to vanish, the PLO Charter & Hamass Covenant both call for iIsraelis destruction We have every right to fear BTW- You never did say where you're writing from, is that the reason you're so smug?
53. Israel
Natalie   (12.28.12)
No wonder he is a Professor, he figured it all out and it's so easy, the rest of us are just too dumb to understand. If we just get up and go, why, it will e wonderful. There will be no terror attacks against us, just like before 1967. Haas, Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah will change their tune overnight. The Arab/Muslim world will be singing our praises. The left inside and outside Israel will no longer call us fascists. Wow, give this guy both a Nobel and a Mensa award.
54. to 13 America fought against NO ONE until Japan kicked their
Aharon   (12.28.12)
ass and it came into American interests. I guess they didnt teach you a full and extensive history in school. Did you know the USA, took pictures from airplanes of the Nazi death camps long before they even thought of doing anything or joining in. Stick that in your knowledge bank, you bad assed fool.
55. To bad assed jew
Lior ,   Israeli American   (12.28.12)
"Hell if all of Europe fell into the sea tomorrow and disappeared, would anyone notice, or even care? " I am embarrassed to be an American with people like you and dumb ass comments like this, seriously?! If you love israel so much, go live there, or havent you got the b*lls?? Do you even have a passport?
56. very good 43 and 44
Menchem ,   Belgium   (12.28.12)
I totally agree with # 43 and 44, happy to sea that there are some reasonable people around
57. Remove the occupier.
michael Pielet ,   israel   (12.28.12)
Save israel, remove all leftists. Israel will only be saved by the giborai israel, living in judea and Samaria. All leftists in Tel Aviv should be forcibly removed from their homes and returned to their countries of origin.
58. Ynet must please its more than half of facebook likers...
yitz   (12.28.12)
59. Democracy
roy ,   canada   (12.28.12)
to the author: Nothing prevents you from convincing your peers of your point of view. In Israel we vote. We have options. the majority leads. If you dont like finding yourself in the minority you can switch sides, you can pack and leave. Your free to exercise your own will, so long as it doesnt harm others. Thats the difference between us and our neighbours. Fact is, nobody believes israel is defendable on 1967 borders. You care to lead the country and take that chance??? You can try to convince people pf that and go for office. Good luck
60. Israel has the right for self-defense,
Ali ,   Satae of PALESTINE   (12.28.12)
But do Palestinians have similar rights ?. As a Palestinian who lived under ocuupation all my life, I ask the following question. Is there anything I can do other the pick up and leave ?. Is that all ?! Dream on... OK OK lets say I do, what about the other millions upon millions. Will the world continue to accept for my children what it did for me? how about my grand kids?
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