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Israel needs life-saving surgery
David Harel
Published: 28.12.12, 12:48
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61. To # 5 Anshel
Stan ,   Israel   (12.28.12)
Ii the professor is wrong and Israel's future is guaranteed then I suppose that you will soon be moving here to join us. If it turns out that you were wrong, and Israel is boycotted out of existence (like White South Africa) then you can always go back to Canada. What do I and my children and grandchildren do ? We don't have foreign passports.
62. Lesser of the Evils
Zechariah   (12.28.12)
The occupation is the lesser of the evils .A Palestinian state Jihadi or ultra nationalist will seek to throw out they Jews there owill be not two million but eight million arabs and they will vote for the jihadi or ultranationalist parties . Abbas will toe the line and suddenly want to return to Safed.
63. what occupation?
Alex ,   SF, CA, USA   (12.28.12)
The author’s reference to Judea and Samaria as an “occupied land” shows his true color. He is a typical self hating liberal Jew who wants for the entire world to love us or at least not to hate us, and especially he wants the Arabs not to hate us. And the solution is to give up our ancient land of Judea and Samaria in exchange for what? They will hate us for as long as they breath, for as long as there are Jews in the world, any Jews, any where in the world, don’t you get it, dear Professor? We are the Hebrews, the people of Hebron. This is not an occupied land; this is our land, taken from us by the Arabs. Do you need a history lesson dear Professor? People like you, Professor, are the one’s who allowed Holocaust, you are spineless, delusional, and not a very bright individual. And, I have a feeling, that you are not too proud of being a Jew, Professor. Here in America, we have many like you, they are the one’s who voted for Obama, the worst present this country ever had. I bet you would have done the same.
64. occupiers
michael Pielet ,   israel   (12.28.12)
#60 you are an arab. As an arab you have no right to occupy Jewish lands. Go live in the 22 arab states. #61, stan there is no place for people like you in Israel. Get a foreign passport and leave. Better yet move to Gaza. You belong there. Gaza homeland of the leftists.
65. I think the 'disagrees' win this hands down.
David ,   Hartford USA   (12.28.12)
To Ali (#60), yes, there is something you can do. Prove that you and your kin want to live in peace- by being peaceful. That's all Israeli society wants- to know that random acts of terror will no longer happen. You haven't been able to show that, so the army and police have to have a large presence. As long as your 'leaders' foment unrest and your TV stations broadcast 'educational' programs extolling jihad against Israel and Jews, then your plight will never change. Nobody wants to live next to crazed killers. And since jihad and Jew hatred are foundations of your Quran, you'll have a difficult time trying to convince your people that it's ok to live in peace. Sadat was a great man- he decided hate and war wasn't in the best interest of Egypt. It's a tragedy that the MB killed him before he could turn around Egypt's popular opinion. The PA doesn't have a great leader with vision- he's blinded by the bilge that Arafat spewed for decades. Individual Palestinians must lead the way- through peace. Can you do it? If every Palestinian simply said, 'Today, I'm going to be peaceful,' peace would be at hand. But your leaders won't permit you to think that way. What a shame.
66. To # 44 Thank you Esse for your
Stan ,   Israel   (12.28.12)
excellent mail
67. To # 31 "...us having to put up the wall"
Stan ,   Israel   (12.28.12)
Where did you put up the wall John, in London? If anybody put up this security barrier it was me ! Every Fryday midday I was out on the street corner with my sign demanding that the the government put up a barrier. The people who cursed me as they drove past were the right wing prolitariate and the religious Jews. They did not want a barrier between Israel and the occupied areas.(It took the government a year before deciding to put up the wall.) Some of my views are Right wing, others are considered Left wing. I am a pragmatist. I want Israel to survive, and the only way that can happen will be if we rid ourselves of the Palestinians by getting out of territory which is considered by GLOBAL CONSENSUS to be Palestine. Not one country in the world. not even our great ally the USA thinks differently. # 59 Roy talks about democracy - it reminds me of White South Africa where a large majority supported Apartheid. Helen Suzman tried to change this but to no avail. In SA where most of the Afrikaaners were very religious the clergy told them that God had given them the land.(sound familiar?) SA, the strongest economic and military force in Africa,( like Israel in the ME) collapsed after 25 years of boycott due to GLOBAL CONSENSUS. I hope that I.m wrong, but common sense and learning from history make me believe that I (and the professor) are right.
68. #51, Books can be written on what you don't know & YOUR mess
Michael ,   California, USA   (12.28.12)
69. only lalala land...
borisb ,   BRAZIL   (12.28.12)
Dave, write about the next world cup with the ex coach of palmeiras, now at the second division..... you must have a better acknowloge....Corruption of politics like jose dirceu What saves Israel is the almighty,The IDF, and her Democracy, not to be put at enemies hand to be seen cool. the Wall is a problem?, of course, just remember about the intifada and suicide genocides, Israel is growing up, and Israel is paying a price to be soberan, Israel is not tchecoslovaquia of 30'. Say good bye to colonialist mandatory ideas Frenches,British or even German. Brazil must be saved, maybe you can help. What wonderfull EU they have
70. #60 Ali -non-existent entity
BENJABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (12.28.12)
It was Israel that needed to defend itself, because your buddies attacked in repeatedly Your rightful home is back in Arabai & Egypt, from whence you came. If you don't believe me, ask one of your own, Fahti Hammad (Hamas) his video is on Youtube You are an "iINVENTED PEOPLE"
71. #68 MICHAEL, CA
BEN JABO (MACHAL) ,   ISRAEL   (12.28.12)
Stop talking, start writing !!
72. israel needs lifesaving surgery
baer   (12.28.12)
by whom`????? by those who watched HOLOCAUST and profited? By those who watch mass-slaughetering in syria NOW NO the reason we are stuck is as a NORMAL country like all countries we must be prepared to act like normal humans not like angels this is the way the world was and is always till each of us finds hisher solution to be a human being all the best baer
73. To # 48 Alexi you are arrogant and ignorant
Stan ,   Israel   (12.28.12)
Read up about our history - not 200 years ago - 2000 years age and before. I won't detail all the catastrophies which befell our people. 66 - 67 CE Extremist led Jewish revolt against the Romans. Result: Jerusalem and the 2nd Temple destroyed. 132 - 135 CE Bar Kochba led a revolt against the Romans.(Some say he ALMOST succeeded.) The facts are that about a million Jews died, and Jews were banned from entering Jerusalem for the next 500 years. Do you know who allowed them to return? Your friends the Muslims when they captured the city in 638 CE
74. No 3
ron bower ,   Sydney -Australia   (12.29.12)
Why are you using plural when you live in Lodz ? are you smarter than israeli professor ? Ron
75. Why IQ and intelligence are not one and the same,Professor?!
tom ,   tel aviv   (12.29.12)
76. No kiddin' ,...
split ,   US   (12.29.12)
A head transplant wouldn't hurt at this point, paired with an electric shock therapy to the corpse to re-start it's brain function ;) ,...
77. #44
Maurice ,   Montreal   (12.29.12)
...and your solution? It is easy to preach peace just like the professor did without providing any concrete solutions. Unfortunately, until the enemy changes its hateful terrorist mentality there is no solution but stay in the West Bank.
78. Another "Jews are our misfortune" article
Ilan   (12.29.12)
A discredited logic of blaming thee victim
79. Your a bloody idiot Professor
Malka Kideckel ,   Melbourne Australia   (12.30.12)
But the worst part is that Israeli society has become racist, violent and horrifically arrogant. That's a healthy sign that we recognize that this is our country/land we fought for it and G-d approved of it and continues to help us. Hodu L'Shem Ki Tov Ki L'Olam Chasdo
80. Stick to science!
Eddy ,   Tel Aviv Israel   (12.30.12)
81. WHY ARE ALL LEFTISTS IDIOTS ???????
Chris Rettenmoser ,   Bayerisch Gmain Germ   (12.30.12)
82. The entire WB is Israeli Territory
Dr Eric ,   Tel Aviv   (12.30.12)
2% of Israel think like Prof Harel they are the radical left and they voted meretz. The majority of centrists in Israel are willing to make serious concessions for peace ( give up more than 50% of WB) but are not willing to go back to 67 borders. Even Jimmy Carter stated that Gush Etzion will remain in Israel's hands. The radical left have convinced the arabs that they are the victims and that the reason there is no peace is due to "occupation" The left (Beilin, Amos Oz, Grossman) must convince the Palestinians to accept a demilitarized PA state in 50% of the WB. That is the most they will get – They don’t deserve anything!!!! The Arabs don't deserve anything for the following reasons: 1)They turned down the partition plan in 47 and declared war. 2)The said no to peace in 1967. 3)They preached hate from 1994-date and idolized terrorists and baby killers 4)They said no to Barak's offer in 2000 5)They set up a very corrupt PA in 1994 6)They killed thousands of pro Israel Arabs from 1987-date
83. Israel relinqueshing land does not lead to peace
Dr Eric ,   Tel Aviv   (12.30.12)
Anyone who believes that Israel is going back to the 67 borders and is conveying that message to the Palestinians is a fool and is hurting both sides of the conflict and deferring peace. Israel cannot move the 600,000 Jews from Gilo, Ramot, Gush Etzion, Ariel, Kiryat Arba, Shilo, Kdumim, Ofra, Eili, Maale Adumim etc. If you understand the Zionist movement you'd understand that Israel will not leave Israelis in a future Palestinian state. Israel can't go to the 67 borders and give PA control of borders for many reasons including - Tel Aviv Location -BG airport -weapon smuggling that occurred in Gaza and Lebanon -weapons turned against Israel in 96 and 2000 and Gaza The Arab leaders refused peace in 47, 67 and 2000 and attacked Israel in the most vicious fashion and their people were partners in the attacks and the Palestinians will have to pay the price of their acts.
84. Is it Judeo phobia or Stockholm Syndrome
Dr Eric ,   Tel aviv   (12.30.12)
Its so sad to see Israeli that should be aware of the history of the conflict but still side with Israel's greatesr enemies. The Arab leadership preaches hate and is supported by foolish leftists that cheer these haters on. The Israeli leftists hate. This professor writes how he hates Israel's leaders. I'm not sure if this is Judeophobia or just the Stockholm Syndrome
85. YOU ERR TERRIBLY !.
Arn. ,   Sweden.   (12.30.12)
I Quote - Any person with eyes in his head knows that the region's troubles are related to the occupation Comment - So - the Occupation began in 1947 then ? What an Idiocy you exhibit !. Further - Your citation from the Word of HASHEM are totaly void of understanding - thus - Isaiah 54 “Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child! For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife,” saith the Lord. 2 Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations; spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes. 3 For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left, and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. 4 “Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed; neither be thou confounded, for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more. 5 For thy Maker is thine husband” the Lord of hosts is His name” and thy Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel; the God of the whole earth shall He be called. As is written - Words in the Mouth of Fools, are like the legs of the lame, who hangs down without power. The Cancer here is in you own thoughts only. Arn.Sweden,
86.  The Weizmann Institute requires surgery
bob96 ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (12.30.12)
It has a cancer - and this a real one - with the name of David Harel, that should be removed as soon as possible to save our youth to be contaminated by his stupidity and his hate for our country, just because is moving on.
87. Israel: mild cold. Palestine: ulcerated lesion.
Diagnost   (12.30.12)
It is true that the Israeli West Bank settlements are called buffer zones against an enemy. It is sad that the Palestinian leadership, and the majority of the Palestinian society has only one faith, a faith in total violence for the recovery of all land including the 1948, 1967 Israel on both sides of the Green lines. Tel Aviv, Lod, Haifa etc. The immediate treatment is a social engineered chemotherapy to cleanse the ulcerated lesions in the Palestinian nation. The next stage is to reinforce the cells of the Palestinian civility and liberal democracy. It will than lead to a two state solutions. I think there will be an Israel minority in the West Bank with mutual agreement.
88. Well Spoken Prof. Harel
World Citizen ,   the world   (12.30.12)
If only the majority of Israelis had your insight.
89. Harel,May every state get a friend...
ORA ,   JERUSALEM   (12.30.12)
like you. Why should only Israel have to suffer?
90. To # 81
Stan ,   Israel   (12.31.12)
NOT all Germans are faschists
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