What does this say about the future for Jews in Britani? Will Jews in Britain be forced, in practice if not literally, to be taking an oath of "loyalty" by disclaiming ties to Israel or be subject to harrassment? Will Britain be the new France? The news out of Britain has been bad for a year, and getting worse4.

They love the Mayor of London who visits and actively supports Hizballah. They allow the Imans to preach violent hatred and wonder why their subway got bombed. I did not feel bad for the UK when their subway was bombed. They enabled that event and are also to blame for the bombing.

The UK has no right to claim that Israel is an occupier since they occupy Northern Ireland. The UK observers in Gaza were a complete failure and did nothing to bring calm to that region. They were useless. They were royal incompetents!!

The UK has the most brutal prisons and torture chambers. They are known for abusing and torture. They have many barbarians.

I think that the British public were they to recieve a daily volley of missiles onto London or even a terrorist bomb would be 100% behind Israel. All the British see on their TV screens is the hyped up miserable TV video theatricals and broadcasts only from the lebanese side, gutter and ill informed experts, trying to tail the Israeli army around sothern lebanon and beirut in sterilise all blame for this crisis off the Terrorists callous use of their civilians for shielding their murderous campaign. The only war the lebanese seem to be winning at the moment is the propaganda war and even that is deceptive as the UN Humanitairian rep Jan Egeland has stated calling Hezbollah cowards for hiding amongst civilians as human shields. That coming from the UN whose failure to impose 1559 has resulted in this suffereing and war. Maybe the British would have a different opinion if they and the media were better informed, rather than this pumped up journalism we get in the UK.

Yes i m fed up because every time there is an article about british views on the middle east conflict i can read some lot of rubbish.NO BRITISH ARE NOT ANTI SEMETIC.This article is about a poll who shows that some ( not every body) people think israel response is disproportionate so what,maybe some british jews think the same.I often go and read what'on the guardian web site it's true that sometimes this paper can be seen as pro arabe but certainly not anti semitic.Jews in britain can be proud to live in great britain.Before i finish i really hope that kate nows what she is talking about when she says that living in great britain is the same as in poland 60 years ago for jews because if not its simply a disgrace.

Benjamin, I don't think Kate was saying that living in London now is like living in Poland in the '30s. I think what she was saying, and I feel the same way, is that those of us living in "the diaspora" are watching Jews in Israel now as we (those who preceded us) watched Jews in Poland in the '30s. We see them vilified, targeted, accused of being the instigators of trouble, and threatened with "extermination," while the press and many of hte politicians in our countries, not to mention our countrymen and -women, collude. I have no problem understanding how someone living in England now might feel like someone listening to Chamberlain in the '30s. As for whether the English are anti-Jewish, I can't help but wonder this: where did all that anti-Jewish feeling in Europe (including England) go? Are we really supposed to believe it just evaporated? It just looks more and more like it has simply resurfaced as an incredibly skewed representation of Jews in the Middle East (not to mention elsewhere).

You swines in the USA have funded more terrorism than anyone with your love of the IRA and all things Irish, blood on your hands you have of hundreds of British kids murdered by your Irish friends in the IRA go to hell America

Then what about the Mai Lai massacre and all the villages u burned with napalm, not to mention the crimes you lot are committing in Iraq on top of the death of thousands of innocent Serbs in Belgrade, blasted by US bombs you American hypocrite

"We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." – (David Ben-Gurion, May 1948. From Ben-Gurion, a Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar) Even before the abovementioned words were uttered by Ben Gurion, and before the establishment of Israel: terrorism, assassination and propaganda were the primary tools of the Jewish immigrants arriving from Europe and Russia. Ironically, many of them were fleeing persecution but upon their arrival they began to persecute another innocent nation! These Jewish (Zionist) terrorists organised themselves into groups and one of the earliest one was called the "Haganah"; its members included the likes of Yitzhak Rabin, Ariel Sharon and Moshe Dayan. From "Haganah", the "Irgun" gang was formed by the more fanatical right-wing members; the group was later led by Menachem Begin. However, the "Irgun" gang also split in 1940; their off-shoot was called the "Lehi" also known by the British as the "Stern Gang", named after its leader Avraham Stern. All of these terrorist groups terrorised the indigenous Muslim/Arabs, driving them out of their lands. This is the source of the problem, the root of the Arab-Israeli conflict: foreigners who have sought refuge in the land of olive (Palestine – "Bilad az-Zaytun"), turn violent on the indigenous population. These ungrateful Zionist terrorists also attacked the British occupational forces, despite the fact that it was the British government who facilitated their 'settlement’ in these lands. They bombed King David Hotel, killing 91 people that comprised largely of British civilians. Menachem Begin of the Stern Gang was wanted by the British authorities for his criminal activities. After the establishment of Israel, the "Irgun" gang led by Menachem Begin became the right-wing Likud Party, while the "Haganah" terrorists and the criminal Stern gang integrated to form the Israeli Defence Force (IDF). Therefore, Israel is a terrorist state by its nature; its institutions were born out of the terrorism of terrorist groups and theft of Arab/Muslim lands. Israel continues to function in this mode, terrorising the region for the ultimate goal of building Eretz (greater) Israel. The map issued by Begin’s Irgun gang is proof of that vision of creating Eretz Israel, when Israel was not even born. Menachem Begin explicitly stated this in 1947: "Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel, all of it and for ever." However, international situation prevents Israel from achieving this goal of building Eretz Israel immediately; this is a long term objective that is being undertaken with careful planning. To weaken the surrounding Arab countries is one essential milestone for achieving this objective. Thus, dismantling of Iraq, incursion into Syria and Lebanon, eventual annihilation of the Palestinians, preparing to attack Iran, Somalia and Syria, then eventually Saudi Arabia and Sudan, all aid that objective of building Eretz Israel, even though other factors are driving those events. Not surprisingly the fanatical neo-cons (Zionists) are the real architects of this aggressive US foreign policy that is design to weaken the Arab/Muslim countries. Eretz Israel is the goal, and terrorism is the method. It was the Zionists who introduced these methods, like the European colonisers introduced chicken pox to the peaceful native population in the Americas and Australia. Zionists even openly admitted of their intention of using terrorism, the aforementioned words of Ben-Gurion and the underground newspaper of the Stern Gang explicitly stated this: "Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can negate the use of terror as a means of battle." After the birth of this illegitimate child called Israel, terrorism of groups and individuals was replaced by state-terrorism.

However, since 1948, Israel has managed to portray itself as a victim of terrorism, instead of being the real perpetrator, while Israel’s victims have been systematically turned into terrorists. This reversal of the image was achieved primarily by the media-terrorists of the west, and this continues till today by their one-sided media coverage. Zionists of all colours to the government of Israel are given maximum air-time, while the Arab voices are given minimal time, if any at all. For example, the big news in the Western media is that Iran and Syria have aided Hizb-Ullah, but it is no news that the US and UK has been arming Israel to the teeth for the last 60 years! No one notices that the US and British made fighter-planes, helicopters and missiles are used daily to kill and maime Palestinians. If we examine the weapons dropped in Lebanon, one would think it was the US that launched the attack. Basically, coalition of greedy capitalist-vultures in attacking Iraq, Palestine, Lebanon is acceptable but not the coalition of Muslim countries defending itself. Another example of media-terrorism is the selective application of certain terms to conceal the crime. Israel bombing civilian installations in Lebanon and Gaza, depriving the entire population of transport, water and electricity, is described as an act of 'self-defence’; but any impartial observer will see this as 'collective punishment’ dispensed through state-terrorism. These are acts of war crimes and illegal under the various international conventions. Israel continues to use its firepower, targeting residential quarters and civilian conveys leaving Lebanon, killing indiscriminately including women and children. This is described by the media-terrorists as Israeli retaliation to Hizb-Ullah and Hamas. In short they portray the situation as: innocent Israel retaliating against the Arab-terrorists, civilian casualties are collateral damages. Poor Israel, always the 'victim’ despite the fact that it is armed with the most lethal weapons! What is it this time? Is it anti-Semitism or denial of holocaust? Did someone shout 5.999999 Million Jews were killed instead of 6 million? How Israel is the only victim in human history that has managed to kill many more of its enemies (Arabs) since its inception? Victims usually suffer more than their perpetrators, but in the case of Israel it is the opposite. The 'genius’ Bush also calls the Israeli aggression against the Lebanese civilian population and the civilian infrastructure as an act of 'self-defence’, I suppose like he is 'defending’ the US in Iraq! According to him the capture of the Israeli soldiers by the resistance forces is the source of the problem, just like 9/11 being the point where the history of conflict began. Bush and the media-terrorists conveniently ignored the offer made by Hamas and Hizb-Ullah to exchange prisoners, and all this bloodshed could have been avoided, if that route was sought. Yet we have put up with Bush and the Zionists continuously uttering "peace", of course what they mean is "pieces" of Lebanese and Palestinian children! Let us suppose that Hizb-Ullah and Hamas did not retaliate to the initial Israeli aggression but made a pre-emptive strike on Israel and took the few soldiers as POWs. Israel has been holding thousands of civilians (Lebanese and Palestinians) for decades; this includes woman and children for resisting the illegal, ongoing occupation that is condemned by international law. Therefore, Israel has no right to complain for the actions of Hizb-Ullah and Hamas, moreover it is an occupational force that deserves to be resisted. Did Israel not bomb Iraq’s nuclear reactor in 1982, so why the Zionist state can make pre-emptive strikes but not the Arabs?

Israel claims the right to invade Gaza and Lebanon to 'rescue’ the captured soldiers. No authorization was required from the UN, and the US gave it the green light. Israel refused to negotiate the release of its soldiers, partly because it has a hidden agenda and partly because of its racist nature, as allegedly they are God’s chosen race, and they are worth far more than these Arab-gentiles. This means for one Israeli Jew infinite number of gentiles can be killed, be it women or children. This is not propaganda, Talmudic law actually endorse this. No surprise the Stern gang stated this ethos: "Neither Jewish morality nor Jewish tradition can negate the use of terror (against gentiles)…" While on the subject of terrorism, it is interesting to note that victims of Hizb-Ullah has primarily been Israeli soldiers and only 10 civilians, in contrast almost all the victims of the Israeli onslaught has been innocent civilians. So who is the real terrorist by their conduct? Commonsense tells us there is clear difference between, groups resisting foreign occupational forces as freedom fighters and state-terrorists/terrorists. The former groups are operating largely within their borders to free their lands and people from foreign forces; hence by reality they are freedom fighters. In contrast state-terrorism is deployed largely by imperialist nations seeking the wealth of other nations and by those nations who have established themselves on other people’s land, later colonised it by force. For example, it was state-terrorism of European colonisers that led to the virtual annihilation of the aboriginal and the Native American population. Israel and the US are perfect examples of state-terrorists; they were setup on stolen lands, subsequently committed genocide on the native population. Both countries use their firepower to terrorise weaker nations, while they have killed millions more, they scream of being innocent victims, whenever they face just retaliation.

Well, I guess we're all even. Now what?

Europe's perception of not overreacting would be Jews letting Arabs slaughter them. Sorry, Europe, these are different times, Jews now have their own state and army.

Hey, you sure think learning history stormfront.com style is cool and wise. I've got a surprise for you. Those who see history in such perverted ways got their butts spanked very hard. You see, if you think all your life that turd is a muffin, you finally die of crap indigestion.

It depends who is in the 61%. Last Friday, The Independent published a front page showing 198 nations demanding an immediate ceasefire, set against 3 nationas (Israel, UK, and US) not in favour. Almost the whole world against us. But here's part of a letter I wrote today to the editor of The Independent as a formal complaint. It shows how mere numbers do not necessarily add up. I'm sorry it's a bit long, but some may find it useful. Dear Mr Kelner, I am writing to make a formal complaint about your front page of 21 July, on which you show, in two boxes, countries that back an immediate ceasefire in the Middle East (189 in all) and those that do not (a total of 3 — Israel, UK, and the USA). On the face of it, this seems a graphic illustration of the international consensus, a consensus that places the three ‘No’ countries in a league of infamy, isolated from the rest of the world. That is — and you must have known it when you prepared the flag-based graphics — extremely misleading. There is no balance in the picture at all. The most obvious imbalance lies in the fact that a total of 66 of the countries listed are absolutist dictatorships, monarchies, or, at best, ‘democracies’ in name only. Of those 66, 42 are Muslim states, and there are another 10 Muslim or majority Muslim countries with better standards of government. 56 countries on your list are also members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, while 4 are observer states within it: the OIC has a different agenda to the UN, and its members are almost without exception opposed to peace with Israel. Ten are members of the Arab League (the Jama’at al-Duwal al-‘Arabiyya). There are 22 Arab states in all, of whom only 2 (Egypt and Jordan) have signed treaties of peace with Israel. It is axiomatic that Muslim and Arab states will always vote against Israel in the UN and elsewhere, and that countries linked to them by trade and other connections will follow suit. Using a different index, 103 of the countries on your list are either ‘Not Free’ or only ‘Partly Free’ in respect of political rights and civil liberties, according to the 2006 annual global survey by Freedom House. Of the 46 Muslim majority countries surveyed by Freedom House, only 3 are reckoned ‘Free’. Using different criteria, 131 of the countries on your list fall below Israel in the extent of perceived corruption, as reckoned by Transparency International's 'Corruption Perceptions Index 2006'. Another index, Reporters Without Borders's ranking of countries according to press freedom places 120 of the states on your list below Israel. According to The Guardian’s ranking of ‘Human Rights Abuses by Country’, a high percentage of the states on the left of your page have an appalling record. Your list includes several known supporters of Islamic terrorism such as Syria, Iran, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Libya, and Lebanon itself (20% of whose parliament is Hizbullah). In other words, the dichotomy you present is far from being a real dichotomy between, let us say, peace-loving democratic states on the left and war-mongering autocracies on the right. It is considerably more complicated than that, yet the manner of its presentation fails to draw attention to or analyse that complexity. It is, in a very crude sense, an opinion piece, yet it is presented on your front page where readers and passers-by expect to see news.

The BBC incites the Muslims by broadcasting constant anti-Israel propaganda. The Muslims attack Jews and the EU is silent. The EU will blame the Jews for Anti-Semitism because of the "Israel" problem.

Great letter!

i'm intrested on your views concerning the 7/7 and 9/11 have you justified their actions then or only when they threaten to wipe down MY country?

Hi, I'm from England and I would say to the Israeli people - don't believe what the Guardian polls say, it's just peddling the usual anti Israeli retoric that's fasionable with the media in Britain. Sensible people here don't listen to it, defend yourselves - a world WITHOUT Islamic extremists is a much brighter one.

The Brits need some more object lessons, if you get my drift.

Hello, We are doing our best and hope we'll do even better, I havent read that list, but I guess Spain is included. I understand your feeling. and your reaction , and suppose I would do the same. Shalom All the best Ana

Bible, Leviticus 24:17 "If a man takes the life of any human being, he shall surely be put to death" Black Africans are the indigenous people of Sudan and are the majority population. The black Southern Sudanese Christians explain what "peace" means: If you agree to become a Muslim, you will have peace. If you reject Islam, you are at war. From 1955-1973, 1.5 million Christians were slaughtered by the Arab Muslim government in Khartoum. From 1983-2005, two million more Christians died from Khartoum's jihad. Murdering infidels is not considered a crime. Non-Muslim infidels are regarded as not entitled to human rights. Hundreds of thousands of Christians have been raped. Hundreds of thousands of Christian children and women taken for slaves. In the refugee camps, the Islamo-Fascist religious supremacist Khartoum government requires refugees to become Muslims in order to receive food and water. The genocide has resulted in the largest population of refugees on earth since the Second World War. The jihad in Sudan against Darfur's black African Muslims by Khartoum's racist Arab Muslim regime began in 2003. 400,000 black Muslims are dead. STOP Genocide - STOP Slavery - FREE the Slaves and kidnapped IDF soldiers. http://www.iabolish.org/ Bible, Exodus 21:16 "He who kidnaps a man, whether he sells him or he is found in his possession, shall surely be put to death"

For what it's worth, I don't believe most British people think Israel is 'evil' or 'barbaric'. We're not in your position. We're not under siege, and we know that you are. Any reasonable person who sees footage from Haifa and the many other communities under attack in this latest wave of violence cannot in all good conscience fail to understand the violent reaction. That said, the vast majority of people in Lebanon do not deserve to see their loved ones killed or injured any more than the residents of Haifa and beyond. The reality is that this latest bout of bloodletting will solve nothing and reinforce the hatred for another generation. Clear the border of Hezbollah forces? Most people could understand that. Bomb Sidon, Tyre, and Beirut? Why visit more misery on ordinary people - it seems almost like a wounded giant lashing out blindly. May you, and your families be safe in these grim times.

Seriously it is, Us Brits are saying dont listen to the guardian we support you then Dumber than Bush Mark who is either Trolling or was dropped on his head alot is writing a load of crap. Heck if i could i would join the IDF and be over there but i can't. The Guardian the BBC the Independant are so biased its laughable its like the Fox news of britain, Ironically the sun at the minute is the best paper to guage our support for israel. Britain is not anti semetic, Spain is becoming it and alot of other countries are. Britain stands by Israel and Hopes the get the job done with minimal civilian and IDF losses. To the people in the war zone, Try to stay safe.

Sorry Ana, good try, but the fact is that Spain has always been a very very anti-semitic country. Does the word "Inquisition" ring a bell? Sorry for those of you surrounded by the hateful ones among you.

Yes, Faith. That rings a bell. But it wasn't me. I swear!

Protecting Israel is a just and noble cause, but killing innocent Lebanese citizens and UN observers is neither just nor noble.

Considering the thoughtful and researched post by kevin versus the plop of ignorant arrogance you displayed I dont think theres too much problem in seeing that you are the one who are full of crap.

Nobody expects the spanish Inquisition