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Egypt poll: Israel, Denmark, US - enemies
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Published: 01.11.06, 14:38
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61. To Fadi #30. IS A Glorification Of Israel.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (11.01.06)
Scientists have discovered, only recently, that the Universe keeps expanding - not simply expanding, but in an exallerating mode. THIS recent discovery have baffled those scientists - they can not understand HOW it is happening. They say it is impossible. Scientists have NO prove of a shrinking Universe - they have prove of an expanding Universe. SO, Fadi, you comparing Israel with the expanding Universe - IS a glorification of Israel. And I thank you for that. And because the scientists can NOT prove that the Universe will shrink - that part of you comparing Israel with IS invalid. SO, forget it that Israel will be finished. Hope everything is well with you.
62. To Khaled #32. Your History Study Is Deficient.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (11.01.06)
Khaled, your study of history is deficient. Please read #46. Hope everything is well with you.
63. To Ahmed #36. NOT Such A Good Muslims.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (11.01.06)
You write :".. if any one harms them (the Jews) .. he is committing a big sin ..". So, it seems to me that the terrorists are NOT such a good Muslims. WHY NOT? Because they are NOT afraid of becoming big sinners. Hope everything is well with you.
64. peace means this..
ricardo ,   portugal   (11.01.06)
You r in peace with them and they are in peace with u, but that doesn´t means they have to love u. They see you every day killing theirs friends and brothers, so do you expect them to consider you as a friends??!!!. After so many years of the nazi massacres, i don´t think the jews like the germans, may be they are friends but they will never forget what happened and the same aply here with the egyptions
65. #12 Abdel
David P ,   Sant Cruz, USa   (11.01.06)
are you a christian or muslim arab? have you ever lived or worked outside of the land? i wonder how you have such reasonable assesment of the typical arab mentality, which is persuit of sustenance, in some degreee, greater then your average westerner. but you offer no explantion as to why the window of oppertunity is shutting, nor solution, or even steps that can be taken to solve our differences of our people. We prepared for peace, to live side by side in cooperartion, taught it in our schools, accepted that we'd give up much of what we've built up over the last 30yrs, not to mention the infrastructure which we'd continue to provide for your region. You took those yrs and preapred for war, armed yourselves and educated your children to sacrifice themselves for a cause which is delusional, the overthrow of a major industrialized nation backed by the worlds #1 super power. Its like walking into a pit of fire, but backed and popularized and glorified by the arab world, in the media programs, you sold your futures for a short moment in the limelight of arab enterainment, celebrated moments of slaughter. Slaughter of a people who 8 yrs before had reluctently agreed to give you yet another chance to make amends and live in peace. afterall, the Egytpians and Jordians basicaly agreed to a cold peace, why not the palistinans? first the riots in october, then killings, then bombings, then we uncover a whole network, and discovered exactly what your leaders prepared for all those yrs, a holy war, a 2nd bloody revolution, months and months of bombing it was clear that this was intent all along and building a wall to separate us was an acceptable bandaid to to an open wound. Now you come again, when the wall is almost complete and say you want to talk peace and coexistence again? I don't understand? Who do you represent besides yourslef Abdel?
66. 92 % Egyptians see Israel as enemy; Dictator only hope
Lemmings Hotline ,   LJ USA   (11.01.06)
If every one hates Israel, then only the dictator is holding the Egypt/ Israel peace treaty together. And for this we gave up the Sinai. And if that wasnt foolish enough, lets do the mistake with Syria. This is like a bad condo architect. Its not bad enough to have a bad design, he needs to repeat it over and over again
67. # 12 Abdel, very good post
SAM ,   USA   (11.01.06)
It was refreshing to read this post. I pray that you are right. What I do see is that Arab countries preach viscious racism, even Egypt. They preach Nazi idiology, something that would never be allowed in the US. These Arab countries also preach and teach the young all the medieval racist lore that leads to Jew hatred. Just think about this. If it were Palistinian Arabs that were stolen from thier homeland instead of Palistinian Jews, the world would hate Arabs in the same way it hates Jews. The US has been trying to remedy racism for decades and still there is racism. How can it be possible that Arabs could appreciate Jews as humans if they continue to teach all that European racism? Think about this. The Arab is actually creating a legitimate avenue for racism. One day this will come back to the Arab in not so nice ways and it won't be the Jews who will give it to the Arab. Remember the Turks?
68. Rustum, take a hard look at yourself
SAM ,   USA   (11.01.06)
You know, white racist say the same thing about how the indiginous peoples in the US were treatred so well. And the slave population, how the racists say it was great for them. All racist peoplke talk like you just did. Time to take a hard introspective look at your own culture. I know Egyptian Jews. The Dhimmi is not so wonderful, We had something like the Dhimmi in the US. It was called "Jim Crow". The difference between our culture and yours is that we know this is an injustice. When Arabs wake up and realize they are persecutors just like Europeans and are ashamed of it, then this will be a start in the right direction. If you understood the actions of your ancesters, then you would understand the anger of Jews and in particular Israelis. However, I want to tell you this is an excellent post and helps people understand somewhat of an Arab opinion. Thank you for your post. I thought it was good.
69. Jerome 37, Koran and the Jews
BouSameer ,   Lebanon   (11.01.06)
All monotheistic sacred books speak ill of those of other faiths. So it's not about Islam. This is a characteristic of monotheism which by definition are exclusivist and universalist. But for fanatics like you, I can understand it's more convenient to fudge the facts.
70. #20
TheGreatSatan ,   USA   (11.01.06)
You're very transparent, Abdul.
71. Abdel - Idea for a peace process
Meni   (11.01.06)
to somebody who is not a fanatic first) a massive public relations campaign on both sides. everybody will be bombarded with messages that both sides need peace. second) a conference between both sides, representing not elected political parties but the entire spectrum of both sides, with the aim of settling the issue based on two states for two peoples. in the end, will require israel to withdraw from the entire west bank including east jerusalem, and will require palestinians to formally give up right of return to israel proper. this will give the palestinians a real country and give the jews a place too. (based on the idea that people who don't live in their own countries, like the jews for hundreds of years, and the palestinians, kurds, etc etc now, become victimized by others). third) a referendum in both israel and palestine on the same day ratifying the document produced by the conference. (and the agreement must be understood by all -- there cannot be any lying, because both sides are going to lose things that they had always dreamed about, ie the destruction of the other side!) . if both entire sides vote yes, then the steps agreed upon by the conference can take place.
72. To Marhaba #57. Definitely Not From The Moon.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (11.01.06)
You write :".. Egyptians should now find Israelis as fellow friends?" Yes, why not? What is wrong with that? Why should Egyptians NOT see Israelis as fellow friends? Hope everything is well with you.
73. #35 ِamerican money to egypt & american intersts
(11.01.06)
Had not there been a conflict between the arabs and Israel, there would not have been such money. it's actually useless and only helps in creating execuse to give Israel more money.
74. # 28 Abdel
SAM ,   USA   (11.01.06)
another excellent post. I an very happy you posted this comment. There are Israelis and Arabs who just want to get on with thier lives, I beklive it too. I just hope more people like you come forward and that another leader as couragious as Anwar Sadat can do the job we all seek to be done. A lot of wounds need to be closed. I really appreciate your posts
75. #32, Khalid, you live in a dream world
SAM ,   USA   (11.01.06)
Israel CRUSHED the Egyptian forces at the end of the 1973 war. This is what made Sharon a hero and a genious. The Israelis ended up encircling the Egyptian III corps (The elite of that Army) which was 1/3 of that army. and the Israelis actually crossed the Suez canal. Wake up from this wet dream. Deal with the truth. Sadat got the Sinai back. It would have never happened without Sadat and the PEACE treaty.
76. response to Rustum, London, UK
Frank ,   USA   (11.01.06)
Egypt is the second largest recipient of US aid in the World, behind Israel. They receive US$2-3Billion in aid annually. That's a lot of taxpayers dollars to be hated. Especially when you consider that the Egyptian government's entire budget is only at $20-something billion. What Mubarek does with the money is more of his problem than any indication of our 'evil' intentions. When the US gives the UK 10-15% of it's governments operating budget, you wouldn't complain I'm sure. Or, I guess you would.
77. Only hate is here
Faisal ,   India   (11.01.06)
Who ever comes in this site and comments they just split hate here . That poll was in Egypt and Israelis are over reacting why ? All the same many things are changing after the present War in Lebanon . The way Israelis dont trust Egyptians .. like the same Egyptians dont trust Israelis .. Both countries fighted with each other and in real it will take lot of time to forget bitter experiences. lets pray for peace .. enough wars in ME now .
78. David
Abdel ,   Nablus   (11.01.06)
David, First of all everyone on this website represents him/her self…..that includes you and me and everyone else. No one can claim to be representative of any group of people. We are all just nicknames on the internet. Second, my credentials are my business, but just to put your mind to rest I am a Muslim who lives in Nablus as my name suggests. Just asking me about that is offensive honestly because it assumes that since I live here I can’t have a comparable opinion to you or anyone else’s. David, are you happy with the current conditions? I’m not. What is being done to fix the situation right now? Nothing. Making our lives even more miserable than they are will not turn us into a beacon of democracy, will not make us love Israel, nor will it achieve any sort of peace. Sadly that seems to be the standard policy. Why isn’t the peace process working? Well first off all, whenever we get closer to any sort of solution, an Israeli president gets assassinated, or an election is called. What do the candidates run on? “Not giving anything of Arabs”. That seems to be a very popular campaign strategy. Just look at what Olmert just did, to bail himself out he gets Lieberman on board. Now Palestinians life will even be harder until Olmert or even Lieberman “see the light” and realize that this conflict is un-winnable through military might, but only through negotiations. When will that happen? A month before the elections as usual. And the cycle continues. Your politicians like our politicians worry about one thing only , their own benefits. So what happens next? More Jewish kids and Palestinian kids get killed…. And we keep on pointing fingers at each other and debating who owns what and whose fault was it? Pointless. On our side, honestly, I am speechless about the situation our society is in. it was hard enough to even talk peace before, it is even harder when “people are hungry”. We have an absolute failure of economy, government, and our basic freedoms are non existent. A good step to peace will be at least reducing some of the pressure on the population (yes I understand you need to protect your people), but that does not mean our lives have to be absolutely miserable. Most employees over here have not been paid for the last 9 months and counting. As for the window closing thing, that has to do with religious dimension getting stronger in this conflict, especially thanks to the current American government and their wisdom and vision, which never fails to disappoint……. I think that the conflict is getting more wide spread, and the last thing we need is for this to be a religious conflict – and before anyone says anything, IT IS NOT. You have all the keys to peace. Eventually you will have to decide do you want to separate or not, regardless of who the other side is, forget about slogans, black or white, it is always grey. Palestinians and Israeli’s are extremely tired. It is time for a change.
79. #20...a three year old can post better
DR ,   Florida, USA   (11.01.06)
your talkback is a reflection of your inteligence...not much there, huh? Israel is hated by countries that hate progress, freedom, democracy and all other things that are good. Iran, Syria, Egypt are run by radical Islam, they treat their women like second class citizenns, have no freedom of speech and are despised all over the free world. You lose moron!
80. #28
Adam ,   Manchester   (11.01.06)
Please G-d you will be right, you are someone who help mould minds to make peace a reality....
81. to #51
Avi ,   tel aviv   (11.01.06)
i challenge you to conduct a poll in israel yourself...., you can do it, you can do it for free in this forum, with an e mail address etc.... i challenge you because i think you might be very surprised by the results....., i promise you many israelis will respond, why don't you try it? and then publish the results here in ynet? i am very serious, this coold be very enlightening to alot of people from all sides of the spectrum. good luck!
82. Anything that teaches hate
Seth ,   los Angeles, ca   (11.01.06)
is not in God's name.... I'll quote Michael Franti here: You say you're a christian cause god made you, you say your a muslim cause god made you, you say your a hindu and the next man a jew and we have to kill eachother cause God told us to?" so go ahead people, embrace your hatred! God wants it that way.. it's a good thing I don't believe in God or I'm sure I'd be hatin people too!
83. Steiner, read post #32, and you make your peace with him.
AK   (11.02.06)
84. #33, why didnt you create Palestine in Gaza before 1967?
AK   (11.02.06)
You say: 'Our problems are with those who still our land, kill our childrens & rape our women.' Your land? Egyptian land, or are you talking about Arab/Muslim land. And which of your women were raped by Israelis?
85. Rustum, put a gag in your religious leaders and get respect
AK   (11.02.06)
the latest of your great thinkers, that one in Australia, compared raped women to uncovered pieces of meat set before innocent cats. You must earn respect and your people and their religious leaders don't deserve any with the behavior they exhibit.
86. #11 If you love Christians why do you kidnap their daughters
AK   (11.02.06)
You threaten those girls with rape and force them to convert to islam. why do you riot and attack churches. you have access to internet, you read this paper, you can read others, so you know about those attacks. Why don't you look in the mirror at yourself..
87. The poll is not a scientific one
Egyptian   (11.02.06)
1000 out of 70 Millions Egyptians!!! The poll is not a scientific one. We don’t have problem with Israel and this is the opinion of most of the Egyptian. We don’t like the way you treat the Palestinians or the Lebanese. A group of Israeli university students visited Egypt recently and they were surprised from the nice treatment from most Egyptians they met. The students told everybody they met that they are Israelis. This was in both Cairo and Alexandria. But from the comments I read in this web site it seems that Israelis hate Egyptians very much and they are just looking for a way to express their nice feelings.
88. 79- progress?
USA ,   USA   (11.02.06)
you say israel is hated by countries that hate progress- then WHY does Europe hate you and the USA? and Australia and New Zealand?
89. To Seth #82. Sometimes Brothers Do Fight.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (11.02.06)
You write :"You say you are a Christian cause God made you ..". YES. Not only did God make the Christian people, the Muslim people, the Hindu people, the Jewish People (as mentioned by you ) - but God made ALSO the elephants, the birds, the cows, the deers, the pigs, the monkeys, the dolphins, etc. So, Seth we - all of us - ARE all brothers and sisters of each other. AS you know, sometimes, brothers do fight with each other. So, NO one should blame God for the fighting. IF you want to accuse someone - accuse the fighting brothers. THAT is honest !!! Hope everything is well with you.
90. Sinay...
DK ,   Israel   (11.02.06)
Why the hell did we give them Sinay? http://www.globaljewishcommunity.com/forums/index.php
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