Some Jews 'do not comply' with New York gun laws to protect their synagogues

At a time of rampant antisemitism, NY Jews choose to disregard prohibition on arms in places of worship; Jewish first responder argues fear of going to jail meaningless when compared to fear of attack on his synagogue
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Under strict new gun laws signed by Gov. Kathy Hochul in July, it is illegal to carry concealed weapons in houses of worship in New York State.
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  • One group of Jewish gun owners has responded with a lawsuit, and separately a judge said he would block the state from enforcing parts of the law on constitutional grounds.
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    A New York Jewish gun owner took this photo of his weapons and and his Jewish paraphernalia
    A New York Jewish gun owner took this photo of his weapons and and his Jewish paraphernalia
    A New York Jewish gun owner took this photo of his weapons and his Jewish paraphernalia
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    But some Jews are taking another tack: ignoring the law altogether.
    The New York Jewish Week has spoken to Jews in New York City and the Lower Hudson Valley who say they are continuing to carry concealed weapons at shul. Their goal, most say, is to protect their synagogues at a time of increased antisemitism.
    A Jewish first responder involved with security at his synagogue in Orange County, New York said that he “does not comply” with the state’s gun law. (Like others interviewed for this story, he asked that his name not be used to protect him from prosecution.)
    “I carry 24/7 wherever I go,” the Orange County man said. “I believe that law is illegal, not me. History has shown us that when Jews are not being allowed to defend themselves, this can lead to bad outcomes.”
    He also added that police officers in Orange County “might assume that we are still carrying and would be looking the other way.”
    The Orange County Sheriff’s Office declined a request for comment.
    Another Jewish gun owner in Rockland County told the New York Jewish Week that he doesn’t see the state law as valid.
    “I don’t think it’s illegal,” the Rockland County man said. “I think New York says that they’ll prosecute me for even carrying the firearm, but we’ll take it up in the courts.”
    He added that the fear of going to jail is meaningless when compared to the fear of an attack on his synagogue.
    “If there is a use of force incident at my synagogue, I’m probably not walking out of there,” the source said. “If I’m willing to put my life down on the line to protect my community, am I willing to go to court and go to jail for a period of time? That’s the price I may have to pay.”
    Attacks like the 2018 mass shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh and January’s hostage-taking crisis at a synagogue in Colleyville, Texas have prompted many synagogues to pay private firms, train congregants and hire off-duty police officers to bolster security at their synagogues. But the sources who spoke to the New York Jewish Week say they are augmenting these efforts by taking matters into their own hands.
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    A makeshift memorial stands outside the Tree of Life synagogue in the aftermath of a deadly shooting in Pittsburgh in 2018
    A makeshift memorial stands outside the Tree of Life synagogue in the aftermath of a deadly shooting in Pittsburgh in 2018
    A makeshift memorial stands outside the Tree of Life synagogue in the aftermath of a deadly shooting in Pittsburgh in 2018
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    A Brooklyn man told the New York Jewish Week that while bigger synagogues can pay for armed security, at his smaller congregation, he and others must carry a gun to protect their congregants.
    “It’s a sensitive topic,” the Brooklyn source said. “No one who is a family man with a stable income living the American life is exactly interested in getting a felony conviction with a mandatory minimum sentence.”
    The source added that he has had conversations with New York City Police Department officers who are “sympathetic” to his concerns.
    A spokesperson for the office of the Deputy Commissioner, Public Information told the New York Jewish Week that “the NYPD declines to comment on pending litigation.”
    “Certain things are left unspoken, but what these police officers implied was that, ‘you are getting yourself into trouble,’” the Brooklyn source said.
    Gun laws are much more strict in New York City when compared to other parts of the state. A specific permit is needed to carry guns in certain places, and a permit obtained outside of the city is not valid. It is also illegal to carry a loaded rifle or gun in the city.
    Hochul signed the new state-wide gun regulations in July after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down the state’s strict concealed carry laws. The new law added multiple checks on gun regulations, including banning concealed weapons from “sensitive areas,” listing an array of public spaces which included houses of worship.
    Last Thursday, a federal judge said he would block the state from enforcing parts of the law including the “sensitive areas” section, agreeing to a three-day delay of his order to allow for an emergency appeal.
    In a separate case, the Rockland County-based New York State Jewish Gun Club filed a lawsuit saying that the law infringes on its members’ religious freedom by prohibiting weapons in a house of worship.
    At least a half-dozen sheriffs in upstate New York said that they have no intention of enforcing the state’s gun regulations, the New York Times reported last Monday.
    Jeffrey Lichtman, a criminal defense attorney who has represented clients facing gun charges, told the New York Jewish Week that even if someone has a license to carry, if they are caught in a sensitive place such as a house of worship, they are “facing real jail time.”
    “It’s an illegal possession of a gun,” Lichtman said. “I can certainly understand why people in the Jewish community want to carry a gun, but that’s the law.”
    Lichtman added that he expects the law to be changed, because it is “untenable.”
    All of the sources who spoke to the NYJW attend Orthodox synagogues. Recent polls show Orthodox Jews are less supportive of strict gun control laws than non-Orthodox Jews, in keeping with a right-leaning trend within the community.
    One newspaper serving the Orthodox community, Hamodia, has been closely following the gun control debate in New York State, with multiple articles on the topic.
    Nathan Diament, executive director for the Orthodox Union Advocacy Center, would not comment directly on synagogue-goers flouting the law, but told the New York Jewish Week in a statement that “there is no ‘one size fits all’ approach to synagogue security.”
    “The OU’s role is to ensure each shul has the resources and access to security professionals to make the decisions that fit their needs best,” Diament said. “What we are committed to is ensuring that everyone can enjoy their freedom to worship with a freedom from fear.”
    The Community Security Service, an organization that has trained thousands of volunteers in synagogue security, declined to comment for this article. In 2020, however, its CEO, Evan Bernstein, said that if a congregation does decide that it wants armed protection, it must approach the issue with care.
    “If you just say, willy-nilly, you can have a gun, that’s not protecting the community well and that’s not protecting the organization well,” he said.
    Despite such advice and the legal jeopardy, the Orange County source was defiant.
    “It’s a concealed weapon and it stays concealed,” he said. “No one has to know. The consensus here is not to go along with this nonsense in Albany. We have an understanding with the officers: Don’t ask, don’t tell.”

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